The 23-year-old was pulled out of the van, placed in handcuffs, and detained for about 25 minutes while the agent searched him. When the agents finally found his ID confirming his citizenship, the agents let him go — without offering any explanation or apology.
A 23-year-old electrician from Brentwood is speaking out after a disturbing encounter with federal immigration agents left him handcuffed and shaken, despite being a U.S. citizen.
Elzon Lemus says he was on the job, driving in a work van with his co-worker in Westbury when they were pulled over by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents. The incident was recorded on Lemus’ phone.
“What’s up, guys? Can I see your ID, please?” an agent asks in the video.
When Lemus questions why they’re being stopped, the agent replies vaguely, “Cause you look like someone I’m looking for. Can I see your ID?”
Lemus continues, “Who are you looking for exactly? Because it’s definitely not me.”
The agent then warns him, “This is going to go one of two ways here. I need to see your ID — if you’re not the guy I’m looking for, you’re not the guy I’m looking for. But we need your ID.”
When Lemus continues to question why he’s being stopped the agent escalates and says “If we don’t get your ID we are going to need to figure out another way to ID you and that may not work out well for you.”
“Mom, I don’t wanna go to school today”
“Stop being lazy”
“No mom, I don’t want to get arrested by ICE”
Since the republicans passed laws allowing teachers to be armed in schools it would be such sweet karmatic justice if one them melts an ICE agent.
Isn’t illegally detaining folks a violation of their civil rights/freedoms? Pretty sure that one that isn’t protected by qualified immunity… fucking scum
Guilty until proven innocent
“Papers, please”
The Gestapo strike again.
Papers please.
Take down individual names any time you have them. They are deciding to do those things individually, and they will answer individually to the citizens, when some bro stairs save america by being tripped upon by an ailing man, and it all starts crumbling and imploding.
Assholes
“You look like someone I’m looking for” seems to be a recurring quote from these guys.
They really hit the nail on the head with that cutaway
the last one is almost VANTA BLACK.
Imagine having this in your car on a card and when ICE asks for your ID you pull this out.
Man, tfw I’m an immigrant, but I’m pale as the fucking moon so I can’t do this
“You fit the profile”
Next is Stop and Frisk nationwide followed by “Papers Please”
Based on the latest reports, no way they would be polite enough to say “please”
removes wig
removes prosthetic teeth
removes rubber nose
removes lifts
removes muscle suit
“Do I still look like them?”holds up color chart “Yeah, you’re still a dead ringer.”
I’ve yet to see these guys looking for a middle aged white male or female.
Tbf didn’t they arrest a white Danish man recently?
One? … all the headlines highlight mass arrests of any kind of brown non-white person everywhere … dozens, even hundreds of them. I’m sure there are white people being added to that list somewhere but they are few and far between, while the majority of the masses being attacked are brown minority groups and individuals.
Can’t say it’s something I’d root for but is black/brown face still bad if you use it to waste cops and ice’s time?
Quotas for DEI initiatives bad: no merit for chosen employees
Quotas for ICE good: no merit for those arrested in order to meet quota…
I know I know, you don’t logic a Magoo. There is none to be had…
The scary part is that there absolutely is logic to it. They’re still just slightly short of being willing to say that part out loud.
Lawsuit time and this one is legit.
Agreed, this is a clear cut Constitutional violation. Should be worth millions.
And he might get justice in ten years.
And?
This is PAYDAY. Open and shut slam dunk.
I wish my rights were this clearly violated.
It’s payday… In ten years.
Assuming the laws don’t change.
And assuming ICE doesn’t kill him to stop the lawsuit.
Your cynicism is makes impossible to have a rational discussion.
Everything’s going to be back bite with some little sarcastic pissy remark and I just am exhausted by this kind of dialogue.
It’s payday if a judge in 10 years gives a shit about constitutional violations, or if judges are still non-partisan by then. The dude also looks Latino, so his odds are even worse. I am an outsider looking in, but I wouldn’t trust that shit hole country to uphold any sense of the law after what I’ve seen over the last few weeks. Fuckin’ embarrassing mess down there.
There’s nothing rational about your position! You literally said “I wish my rights were this clearly violated” and you think I’m supposed to take your position seriously? Your wide-eyed credulous optimism will run face-first into reality soon enough, and when you do, I won’t say “I told you so” because I know you’ll already understand that the time for lawsuits is coming to a close.
But don’t call me a cynic. I have revolutionary optimism. I know we can win when we take this seriously.
Yes, the democracy is crumbling but at least some people will get paid.
Profiting from dictatorship must be the most American thing ever.
Honestly? I hope he gets his bread and pays for his family to go somewhere better.
What? 🤣
“Papers, please!”
No wait, they are not that polite…
“Papers!”
Wait, they didn’t even lead with asking about his papers?
Damn…
“Submit to the skintone inspection!”
Since when can ICE make traffic stops?
The Yankee Gestapo have been allowed to do what they want by The Fatboy Tangerine …and by the us population.
These dumbass nicknames trivialize a very serious subject. What possible reason could you have to make a joke out of this?
Likely won’t be a popular opinion, but I for one agree. This is a serious issue.
I wouldn’t mind as much if they were at least clever but they’re always second grade playground level dumb. It makes all of us look like idiots.
Since people started obeying them. If it’s not a cop, you don’t have to stop.
Anyone can do anything. There are only consequences after the fact and only if the state agrees there should be.
Since they are Trump’s secret police.
Laws are just agreements not to do stuff
“Papers, please” - just like Soviet Russia and the other Soviet-bloc countries.
but with no EZIC.
Glory to Arstotzka!
No reasonable, articulable suspicion of crime? No ID.
You are required to show your driver’s license if you’re asked for it by law enforcement while driving in New York state.
Edit: Holy shit y’all are insane. I knew Lemmy was an echo chamber but mass downvoting simple, factual information like this really makes me think less of you.
Law enforcement is not permitted to randomly pull over vehicles. They provided no justification. This is clearly illegal.
Cops can always find a reason to pull you over. Also, they have no obligation to tell you why they did so. 1 mph over the speed limit? Valid traffic stop. You slowly drifted from the right side of the lane to the left side? Valid traffic stop in the eyes of the law.
Is it bullshit? Yes. Illegal? No.
Is the driver in the OP still required to provide his license when pulled over?
Yes.
Random would actually be more ethical! They obviously saw a person that was not lilly-white, and pulled him over. That’s literally policy guided by racism!
“You look like someone we’re looking for” will get them pretty far in the courts. They don’t have to tell you who that person is, but by the time you sue and you’re going through the court process, they’ll find someone on their list who looks like you so that they can say “oh yeah it was this guy we were looking for, we promise” and the case gets dismissed.
Say it a third time , maybe you’ll get a different answer
The US really does seem less “free” than most western countries honestly.
I can’t even remember ever being asked for my ID by police inside the EU
Yeah.
I can’t remember exactly how it goes here in Australia, but I haven’t carried my ID with me (we don’t have electronic ID yet) for 5 years or so and have never encountered any problems.
I think, if they’re going to fine you (like for speeding or whatever) then you have to identify yourself but not necessarily by providing a physical ID. I think you just give them your name and DoB and they look it up, and match it to your car.
The only other time I can recall being stopped is for a breath / alcohol test. You don’t need any ID if you’re not over the limit.
I don’t recall any other interaction with the police of any kind really.
ICE has been directly and illegally ordered to violate the fourth amendment and are doing it every day.
It’s a common theory that many of thr 1/6 rioters are now ICE members. So here is a list of the pardoned fucks. https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-january-6-prisoners-released-2018097
And fuck Jon Schaffer in particular.
