Sounds like fun. There’s going to be that 1 grad student who is like, but how close of approximation is it really and can we use other knowledge to fine tune it… I’m going to launch a cow with a trebuchet and get some better answers.

I’m just trying to correct the article dude. It was blatantly wrong, sloppy writing.

The LAPD don’t hire the brightest bunch.

What about dirty bombs? Less effective, but still a deterrent?

E.g take out the refinery and deny the entire area moving forward.

Actually using it’s another matter, but the idea being it’d be a deterrent.

I want to hear more about this perfectly spherical cow question.

I know this is completely unrelated… but it just made me think of a Robotaxi arriving from Nevada, and the LAPD go in pursuit since they’re illegal in California, then the LAPD decide to do a pit maneuver on it because it doesn’t stop and it kills 2 pedestrians on the street as a result.

Any sane government won’t let them on the road until that is decidedly not the case.

Asking for a sane government is a big ask nowadays it seems though.

Tesla makes a lot more profit per car sold than the other OEMs, and part of the stock price assumed continued growth which would mean even more record profits.

In 2023, Tesla made more net profit than Ford and GM combined on their 1.8m vehicles compared to their 10.6m. Tesla also had really strong growth until this year, and extrapolating the growth and the profits they make led to a higher price. (edit: and in 2022 GM/Ford combined were just slightly above Tesla)

Tesla also has their energy division which is growing rapidly and has better margins than the cars (>100% YoY growth in 2024 and potentially > 100% in 2025)

Nowadays though, it’s more on the future potential of FSD/Robotics which is a huge wildcard.

People don’t see Ford or GM or Toyota massively expanding so they don’t get a higher P/E ratio. In actuality, they’ve got years of suffering ahead of them during the transition.

Then you have companies like Nissan failing being one of the first domino’s in the EV transition, and VW getting destroyed in China causing massive layoffs (25%) and a planned 700k vehicle reduction in 2025.

I’m not saying they deserve the price they have today, but it’s more than just cars sold to get to a number, it’s looking at future potential.

I don’t have a chart for you but

2023 net profit

Toyota - 31.82b

VW AG- 17.331B

Tesla - 14.999b

BMW - 12.165B

GM - 10.1b

Ford - 4.347B

BYD - 4.16B

Edit: Just to preempt this, yes Tesla is suffering a lot more this year with the EV price wars, for the first 3 quarters, they’re at 4.78b this year, whereas GM for example is at 8.97B. GM doesn’t make a lot of profits (if any) on their EVs, but they still have ICE vehicles to fall back on whereas Tesla doesn’t.

Teala isn’t releasing 2 lower cost autonomous vehicles in 2025.

They are releasing 2 lower cost vehicles.

The robo taxi isn’t until 2026 if you make the assumption it’s on time and is autonomous.

Saying teala is releasing 2 autonomous vehicles in 2025 is like saying teala sold 1.79 million autonomous vehicles this year.

Oh, I assumed the explosion caught the battery on fire. Why would it take an hour to put out then? Wouldn’t it just go out immediately once watered?

I stand by the numbers i found.

This is a great comment to post on confidently incorrect.

In case you need help… it’s all the way at the bottom. You fucked your units up.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-tesla-cybertruck-vs-rivian-r1t-vs-ford-f-150-lightning-comparison-test-review/

I stand by the numbers i found.

Closed PRs and Closed issues?

What if it’s a side project with 1 star, 0 issues (because no one made any) and no PRs because no ones done work on it?

CyberTruck: The best choice for blowing things up above it.

its because the sides were stainless steel. The explosion was contained by them. Had it been sheet metal it would have blasted out the sides as well. The bed was closed at the time as well and can support an adult jumping on it, but up was still the path of least resistance because of the sides.

You can see the videos the sheriff plays in his press conference, the sides were intact after the explosion.

Edit: So yes, it is very likely that the Cybertruck specifically did limit damage.

Edit: It was also enough force to knock open the closed tail gate.

Edit: You can also see in this picture how it deformed the outer steel on the right. This stuff is 9mm bulltet proof, it takes a lot of energy to deform it. That’s where it would have come out if it was just sheet metal. If it had created an opening it would have let even more out in that direction which would have caused even more damage in that direction, which would have made the opening bigger, letting more out etc.

I commented on your other reply, but you’ve done something wrong with your units, we can discuss there if needed rather than split the conversation over two.

I think you might be mixing up units for the turning radius between the f150/rivian and the CT

MotorTrend has the turning circle listed as

F150 Lightning 48.0 ft

Rivian 44.9 ft

CT 43.5 ft

Meanwhile the GM site says the Silverado EV is 42.16ft

So your 2 numbers for F150/Rivian aren’t the same measurement as the CT 43.5

Edit: Also the size comparison wasn’t about being an advatange or not, it was the person mocking the CT size when it was smaller than the countries best selling vehicle and favorite truck.

Edit: And worth noting that the CT, Silverado and Hummer all have the better turning circles because of their 4 wheel steering. The hummer is 25 inches shorter, leading to its best score. The silverado is a couple inches longer, and has a tighter circle which is a nice job.

We’ll have to see what the impact damage from that actually ends up being after collisions, but with the lower front and sloped hood/windshield, there’s the possibility of a better chance of being maimed from the steel and thrown onto the windshield, than rammed into, knocked over, and then driven over by a flat high front.

Some people would choose maimed over the more likely dead from the tall flat fronts. But some people might not want the maiming it will possibly do either.

If it isn’t enough to throw you onto the windshield though, then you’ll be maimed AND run over ;)

Edits for clarity, but also, I’ve wondered if this lower bumper is to reduce the SS impact and try to get you onto the hood? Also for all trucks with adjustable suspensions, I think a great pedestrian feature would be to drop the front immediately upon detection of imminent pedestrian impact. I don’t know how fast they could lower it in an emergency, but any amount should help.

The battery pack also has a substantial amount of room between the bottom and the cells. It was so much, that at first people thought that was room for the double stack battery they had originally planned, but it turned out to not be enough space, and is just there to vent gas if cells catch on fire, and more room before a puncture during offroading can reach a cell.

Ya, that’s a really good point as well.