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It clearly takes a lot more than one.

Does it make them money? Or is this a bubble?

Reminds me of Gramsci. In the first instance we have the object: sex. In the second instance we have a reflection of the object: porn. In the third instance we have a reflection of the reflection: pornographic art. Then in the final instance we have a reflection with no object as a reference: AI porn. In this last instance the real thing has been replaced entirely by a simulacrum.

“Grandma, what was it like when people had sex? Before we all lived in the Metaverse?”

reopen bowling allies, small music venues and community dive bars.

i.e. places you need to spend money

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Problem is, everywhere will become high risk eventually. If not fire, then flood.

And that’s fine.

But it’s also censorship.

Have you ever heard of “political events”?

It certainly doesn’t have more. Hexbear came from r/chapotraphouse being banned, after all.

But hexbear has 4.4 million comments, whereas .world has 4 million comments. By not federating, they’ve effectively removed more comments from their member’s feeds than .world has ever had on its own servers. That’s pretty huge.

I didn’t say the censorship is problematic? In fact, I completely support it.

I’m just pointing out that defederation functions as censorship. Lemmy.world refused to federate with hexbear.net and that was when I moved to lemmy.ml - the power of the fediverse is that I was able to move to a different instance and I can interact with both communities. They engaged in censorship that I didn’t like, so I moved. It works!

Defederation is censorship. It’s part of the platform.

Don’t get me wrong, I support defederating from shitty instances, but it’s still a censor deciding what members see.

DeepSeek is really interesting! Leave it to China to solve some of AIs biggest problems - if we can have these models without needing football fields of compute powered by nuclear plants then it would totally change my perspective on the industry. As it is they’re just too wasteful to justify their utility, but if DeepSeek just leapfrogged that problem then I have no complaints.

I have heard that these LLMs are really good as coding assistants, so good point. I shouldn’t dismiss that. I don’t think they’re good at music, and really the art isn’t that good either, but I’m sure people without artistic training like being able to make images and songs. Not sure it’s worth the cost, since it’s all built on plagiarism and so massively wasteful.

As for web searches, really? I don’t think they’re trustworthy. They can, and do, make shit up. No, that’s not the same as the boomerism of saying “anyone can edit Wikipedia so you can’t trust it” because Wikipedia has quality control. LLMs don’t. There’s literally nothing stopping it from spitting out lies and so it’s up to the user to double check whatever the LLM spits out, which means I might as well just search through results myself. And if you don’t always double check, it will bite you in the ass eventually. Good luck with that.

If it wasn’t for the web being an absolute social media shithole with no moderation resulting in AI slop being pasted all over the place, AI would genuinely be the greatest tech revolution I’ve seen since the iphone.

If it wasn’t for the web being a monetized SEO algo shithole we could still just search the web! AI summarization is only “useful” in the sense that the search engines have destroyed themselves in their search for profitability, google is garbage now and we don’t need to build acres of compute powered by nuclear reactors to fix the problem.

So really, the problems that are causing AI slop to pollute search results are the same problems that made search engines so bad over the past ten years.

If we demonetized and de-enshitified the search engines by nationalizing google I don’t think AI result summaries would be useful at all.

That’s not true at all

The vast majority of people won’t check at all. They’ll either agree or disagree based on their own preexisting knowledge/biases.

Yes yes thank you, this is what I meant. I know I pissed a lot of people off by saying that internet communities aren’t real, but what I meant is that they aren’t a replacement for community. The distance, the lag, the lack of a face or voice or body, the time zones, there’s so many elements that make internet “community” into something that I struggle to call community.

If people want to call it community then fine, but it’s not a neighborhood or a workplace or (in the earlier example) congregation.

We have to actively replace them, it won’t happen on its own.

You’re right, and I am not defending the Church. We need ways for the community to express its charity without the church, because the church is dying.

I mean, I’m trans and some kind of bi/pan, it’s not a community for people like me anyway. I can still recognize that it exists though?

It’s because the Internet is a mean place where people feel entitled to get nasty with each other for no reason. “Talk shit, get hit.” This only proves my point.