At least 13 people were injured, five critically in two separate mass shootings at homeless encampments in Minneapolis, Minnesota on Monday. The first shooting took place at East Lake Street and Interstate 35W around 11am local time.
Is Fox News a terrorist organisation?
Kinda
Yes
No.
It’s the gun analogy. Guns don’t kill people. People with guns kill people. People with guns kill people over disagreements they can’t properly resolve, or lunacy. Guns are a tool for hunting for food, but caveman brain leads to them being used as both deterrents, and as misused weapons.
If Fox News promotes lunacy and caters to lunacy, then they should probably be dealt with and taken off the air. My biggest problem with Fox is just how awful their opinion segments (most of their runtime) are and sound. My goodness, I lose IQ just listening to it for more than two seconds. When Fox News reports on news, and only news, without an opinion, they are fine.
Can we go ahead and label fox news as a terrorist organization? They are inciting violence against americans and their viewers are acting on it.
Clearly the administration will do something about these right wing lunatics…
How can they be a terrorist org if they’re State Media?
Oh i dunno, maybe the definition of Terrorist.
“unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”
The unlawfully part is to be questioned since they are using hate speech and hate speech was deemed protected by the supreme court in the past. But apparently the administration doesn’t like that, so the supreme court will probably deem hate speech is not protected anymore since they are bought and paid for by the GOP.
“unlawfully using violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.”
The key part you are missing here is the “unlawfully” part. As the mouthpiece of the current regime they are clearly not beholden to the law (whats left of it) in the us.
It was a rhetorical question.
Fox News should be taken off air indefinitely.
Y’know. That’s one way to end homelessness. Just kill everyone who is homeless. Voila, no homelessness.
You become homeless? Straight to the firing line for you.
I mean, other countries did it by lifting up their citizens with social programs and housing projects and whatnot. Admittedly, I would prefer this much more than America’s method.
But this does seem quite America of a solution to the homeless “problem”…
No homeless in Gilead.
There are no homeless in ba sing se
That’s basically current day fascist America’s answer for every inconvenient group of subhumans.
Homeless? Shoot 'em. Problem gone!
War in Gaza has bad optics? Level it and then you ended the war. Problem gone!
LGBTs? Mexicans??? You’re not gonna believe this…
That’s just fascists in general. Sadly, there seems to be a lot of them in the USA.
it is also a way to end conservatism… just sayin…
Global thermonuclear war.
Are they gonna lower flags to half mast? Will there be a moment of silence? Are they gonna take responsibility? Will they persecute anyone who cheers on these deaths? Do pigs fly?
Move past pointing out hypocrisy. They don’t care. We all know and on the scale of shit they’re guilty of; it seems petty. The institutions are not going to do shit.
Consider what you will be doing about this.
Pointing out hypocrisy is not usually for the benefit of the hypocrite, it’s for the benefit of everyone else.
But we know and it just seems like an excuse to not talk about solutions at this point.
Comrade, organizing online is fraught in the best of times but I think people are hyper aware of the risks of talking about these things online right now.
Dude the wife and I like talking long bike rides without our phones, the only electronics on us our lights and our motors. Get in some good conversations outside the city limits once it’s quiet and we don’t have to worry about blocking the tractor that comes by hourly (only traffic on that road) at 10mph, which we can both do without our motors.
Okay and I get that, but the hypocrisy thing just feels tedious. Like someone’s trying very hard to miss what they’re even doing when they make phonemes.
I say this with kindness: what do your comments add to the discussion? Sometimes people just want to vent. It’s cool. Just scroll past.
Why didn’t I scroll past your comment? Because I thought it might be useful to remind people to shut the fuck up.
Shutting the fuck up is pretty great if you have literally any idea what to do. I’m not anti shut-the-fuck-up. It’s a really great solution for a lot of people. The best, even.
I think i am also entitled to vent. Hearing libs shout about hypocrisy then aggressively shout down even the most mild plan of ‘okay but personally ask them to stop’ is pretty frustrating.
Who’s stopping you from talking about Solutions?
deleted by creator
Not knowing shit about signal electrowhatever or guns, which seem like the two bodies of knowledge a solution would come from.
So your own ignorance is the only thing stopping you?
Yeah. Not everyone can know everything.
Ignorance and general powerlessness. Also he’s all the way fuck over there and I’m not buying diapers and living off cash and MREs for a week while I piss jug my way across a couple thousand miles just to live out someone else’s fantasy of being Gavrilo Príncip
Just the opposite. Continue to point it out at every opportunity. They hate being called out. It doesn’t matter if they care about what they practice, they hate hearing it.
So far, it only seems to be ratcheting up persecution.
We’re at the point now where the only way out is through. The basic checklist includes staying alive, staying sane, trying to stay out of trouble, helping out when you can, and looking for others doing the same. More or less in that order. There is always a “final battle” when society does a fascism that ultimately unwinds it. We’re on track for that and have just missed our last exit. That’s what we have to look forward to. We’re firmly in “weeks where decades happen” territory, buckle up. Hopefully this time we can clean up properly after.
We’ve been there for a long while and refused to see it, for personal comfort and safety. It will require a lot more temperance, courage, sacrifice, a lot less reactionarianism.
I’m pretty sure at this point if you’re not doing anything else you’re just emphasizing impunity and lack of consequences.
If Republicans didn’t have mirrors they wouldn’t know their own reflection
So, what, some sort if orbital magnifying glass to burn them with? Wouldn’t the atmosphere make that really hard?
Not a magnifying glass. Giant tungton rods. No explosive need. Just drop them from space. Kinetic energy does the rest
Weaponizing giant tungsten rods takes a lot more than ‘dropping’ them, you can’t just let go when they’re in orbit and expect them to hit targets because … they’re in orbit, they ain’t going anywhere without some delta V. Plus, if they’re massive dense objects, getting them up INTO orbit is gonna take a ton of rocket fuel. At that point you might as well just use an ICBM with an explosive payload because the destruction-to-cost ratio is way better.
Probably the most expensive way to turn cash into 1/100th the energy of a nuclear bomb but I don’t want to give them any ideas.
It’s the rods from god program. It was not pursued for obvious reasons. I just wanted to sugjest an even more ridiculous solution than a giant orbital magnifying glass
Not only do they not care, they get off on people getting upset over the hypocrisy. It’s a power move.
I know. Did none of these people ever have a bully?
These were liberal left wing extremists that did this right? The blood thirsty left who want to kill everyone and regularly threaten people and groups with death, murder and mayhem?
Or am I thinking of another political extremist group?
If the US lowered flags to half mast after every mass shooting I’m pretty sure they would always be at half mast.
That’s how it should be then. If it’s down literally every day, maybe people would begin to realize how frequent they are.
Who am I kidding, they dgaf
Are they gonna lower flags to half mast?
No, but I’m sure they themselves are at full mast after hearing about it.
“all flags are to be raised to DOUBLE-MAST!! THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER”
it’s just homeless people. There’ll be plenty more soon /s
Came here to post pretty much this. Oh, an asshole advocating violence and calling empathy harmful is murdered? National tragedy. We have to do something. 13 presumably innocent people are murdered. Crickets.
I got one more:
would I care if someone held Kilmeade responsible in an extrajudicial way?
He should be arrested and charged with aiding and abetting a felon and being an accessory to murder.
Literally inciting violence and murder
deleted by creator
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting
Providing any encouragement or incitement to commit a crime falls under that definition. By saying they should be killed and that they are dangerous, unwanted, and need to be gotten rid of that means the mass shooters felt they had the go-ahead to do what they did when they heard that statement.
Shit, I stand corrected. My bad.
Thanks, comrade.
The fox news host should be charged with aiding and abetting? Please explain.
Maybe punished for incitement, on the grounds that it was “directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action”? Tough to prove in court but as a bystander I’m frustratingly unsurprised the one thing followed the other.
deleted by creator
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting
Just the first few lines explain everything.
Yeah, fox news likes to do some stochastic terrorism once in a while, as a treat.
Not saying Fox studios should be burned to the ground, but It would be a shame if it didn’t happen.
Palestine Action taught us that destroying corporate property is an extremely effective form of protest.
Thank god they took Kimmel off the air. Unimaginable what he could’ve said about that bozo.
That Fox host might lose their job, like Kimmel, because the law is equally applied. /s
What law? ABC is a garbage company for doing what they did and we should all boycott them but they didn’t break the law.
Trump’s FCC said they were looking into punishments for ABC because of Jimmy Kimmel, and many ABC associates are currently waiting for FCC approval for their mergers. That is clear regulatory pressure/corruption.
I already wrote to them, and told them that after decades of being my first choice for news, I would be shifting my news viewing to NBC.
I further told them that I would be cancelling Hulu/ Disney+, and would pirate their content from now on, without commercials.
And I will.
deleted by creator
roflmfao
No pushback for that Fox Host that said that. Only pushback and doxing for mean comments about dead white nationalist and nazi.
Or merely mentioning that some democrats were also assassinated this year…
Conservatism is a racist domestic terrorist movement.
We are all domestic terrorists.
deleted by creator
They were quoting the Republican party at CPAC iirc, though your interpretation is also accurate. I guess a couple specific flavors of centrist are the only non-terrorists left in the country.
Here we are guys.
First they came for the immigrant.
Then they came for the homeless.
Youre on the list.
I mean, technically I guess they came for trans people first. That was day one.
Even if you’re “one of the good ones”
Especially if you’re “one of the good ones”
i take it, disabled people are next. -i can only hope? i would rather be dead than be subjected to another god-damned day. it’s a liars paradise, for pain worshippers. and the tyranny of this buttfucking shitsucking devil praising world./
people act like this shit is a new thing. but most of the people of this shitball, knew since birth what this place was.
i know what it is. i truly know. this is why i have requested TOTAL ANNIHILATION. its like a DNR at the hospital, to the omni-bastards that govern over the afterlife. its the understanding to force them to not let me persist, it’s the only way out. otherwise REPEAT
What kind of a bot response is this? You’re not disabled or living, you’re a bot. Either stop pretending you’re a person or if you are a person make a separate non-bot flagged account.
Can I quote myself without sounding arrogant? Brian Killmeade called for homeless to be shot, then retracted.
But he said it. The message has been delivered, and spread. Saying and apologizing is not the same as not saying it.
The redactions never travel as fast or far as the original message. They know this.
It’s along the lines of a quote by Mark Twain
“A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes.”
He needs to be held accountable for this.
He won’t be. But Jimmy Kimmel was taken off the air.
It’s expected of Disney, been supporting fascists since the start.
This is the worst time in human history to be able to read
Giving Helen Keller side eye
given how obsessed Walt Disney was with Germany, taking all of our folk lore / fairy tales, using german architecture as inspiration for castles and towns etc it isn’t really all that surprising to learn that he loved us a bit too much
He could be just not by our legal system, and certainly not by the corpos. But hey there’s always the possibility of a Luigi stepping up. Only way we will see justice, imo.
Saying and apologizing is not the same as not saying it
I love this. Well said.
Thank you. I had a colleague that could tell you to fuck off and later apologize, but it didn’t feel right anyway. And especially in this case, with graver consequences.
I thought he said they should receive lethal injections. Not that they should be shot. Or is this a different instance?
FFS Republicans. You own this 100%
They dont ever own shit
Well, sometimes they own other people
Because they never pay. They just keep getting free passes.
They just break other people’s shit and then the Enlightened Centrists (and not a few deluded leftists) whine when the responsible adults (Democrats) don’t fix it fast enough.
The problem is that they’re happy to own it.
So how do we stop them? Law’s not gonna do shit, but fox news did incite multiple mass murders here. What kind of consequences can be applied?
[ Removed by Reddit ] is the only idea that comes to mind, alas.
So, like, anything between a gently worded letter that never quite asks explicitly but strongly implies what you’d like and full on accellerationist posadism?
If you were to hack Grindr…
Don’t ask what I’m gonna do, comrade.
Do you play jazz? I’m trying to write a slanderous samba but so far my drums track is so basic (I always wanted to play but never got the chance to learn so right now it’s just a basic samba rhythm, no embellishment)
I can barely manage plucked strings. Drums are so much more athletic than i could ever.
The only downside to a strike is not enough people striking.
So, a ‘strike’ has come to mean ‘work stoppage’
And historically that has been the most mild of its possible meanings.
Sabotage of machinery and doing work as normal but dividing the product up among workers or giving it out for free, lying to suppliers, and all sorts of more aggressive tactics have traditionally been included in what that word meant. A lot of that doesn’t take a lot of people.
Yes. Also back in the day there was no fast food or Starbucks. No Amazon. No Walmart.
The Machine has changed.
Congress won’t shut it down. The workers can shut it down. If we want to fix the machine we have to shut it down and fix the Republican sabotage first.
Protests warn people there is a problem. Protests can be ignored. People not getting their fast food can’t be ignored. Daily inconvenience can’t be ignored.
Just look at all the panic work from home caused or when road transport of goods was slowed down.
Rich people pay attention to their money and the average person will pay attention when they can’t get a cheese burger or latte.
Remember what happened when Trump forced China to hit the off button on rare earth metals that are required to keep modern society above complete and sudden collapse?
Members of the fascist party could not be reached for comment, but their neighbors did report noise complaints, from the volume of masturbation.
