Don’t worry, Senator Collins voted against it so she can show Maine how fucking moderate she is.
After checking with the party first to make sure they had the votes…
Well it’s obvious she wants to be seen as a loyal GOP supporter or Trump with her ‘yes’ vote, but still wants the bill to be delayed. Having the house delay the bill makes her look like a loyal lapdog for optics, but secretly wants changes and can blame someone else for the bill being delayed instead of having the delay blamed on her vote
Coward
secretly wants changes and can blame someone else
So many of these Republicans are fully aware that the bill will break the back of the healthcare industry in their states. None of them want to stick their necks out for it, though. The mega-donors will forgive them in the end, but the primary voters are only going to hear “You’re a Secret Democrat for voting against MAGA”.
Gee if only there was some other way she could express her opposition to the bill. Some kind of voting process…
It was a 50/50 vote, if she would have voted no, it would not have passed the Senate
Exactly!
I wonder if the one downvote is somebody confused that maybe you’re defending her, which is clearly not the case, or if you at some point made a tankie upsetty sphagetti and now they stalk your posts lol.
While your two downvotes are one of each.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
I am honestly suicidal over how blithely these ghouls are playing with our health and safety. Every day, I read a new article about how some white dipshit from the fringes of InfoWars and Christian grifting thinks that he knows better than my fucking doctor. I should just start treating my congresspeople like doctors and start mailing samples of my piss and shit to their offices. After all, they’re the ones making my medical decisions.
While I understand you may have meant that as a figure of speech, I also don’t want to shrug what you typed off either. Politics can be very stressful, and the challenges in our life can feel completely overwhelming at times. If you are truly feeling hopeless, please reach out for help. If you’re in the US you can call 988. If you’re elsewhere please reach out to a friend, emergency services, or even a stranger. The world is a better place with you than without you.
Second this!
Never kill yourself for something that’s somebody else’s fault.
Or even if it is your fault.
So just…never kill yourself?
That’s the general gist of the standard advice, yeah.
I’m sorry but I’m chuckling at Guy Fawkes making this statement.
We need you, anon. Tell me about your favorite character.
Don’t kill yourself.
But if you do, maybe consider making it worth it and becoming a hero/legend to the rest of us. You may take this to mean whatever you think it means.
Murkowski’s reluctant “yes” vote underlines the fractures within the GOP over the bill’s $3.3 trillion price tag and its sweeping policy changes.
No, no it does not. What it underlines is the sure and certain collaboration and capitulation of the GOP to whatever the hell trump wants, guaranteed. Any whining and complaining about the harm the bill will do is strictly performative, nothing but the clapping flippers of barking seals that will ultimately do exactly what they’ve been told.
Shit like this and the willingness of the news media to frame it like that is the reason people describe politics as kayfabe. And why they aren’t exactly wrong to believe that.
She always has that confused puppy look.
Lisa Murkowski is another useless cunt talking out of both sides of her mouth. The only thing she’s truly afraid of is being primaried.
Alaska Pop (2024): 740,000
Now I’m not saying you can fit many monsters in closets and under beds…
You know what’d be absolutely priceless though?
Coward
If only there was something she herself could have done to stop it. Like single-handedly, one act that she could have easily chosen to stop this whole damn thing.
But alas, there was clearly nothing.
Goddamn cocksucking motherfucking donkey raping shiteater of a senator. Am I wrong?
Also a right cunt of a coward.
Yes you are wrong. How dare you drag the donkey into this
No you are not.
No, Cartman, you’re not wrong here.
Not wrong but you skipped the other 49
99?
What the actual fuck.
Not quite the same level as McConnell filibustering his own bill after the Dems supported it, but it’s close.
She is more centrist than most Republicans, but she’s still afraid of being primaried.
I don’t buy it. There a small handful of them like her, and they just trade off who gets to act more centrist, but always leaving enough votes to pass the BS they want to pass. Its a ruse so they can keep winning their seats so people can say, see, she’s better than others.
And on the other side, always just enough dems to thwart any meaningful progress even when they’re given majorities, even “super” that one time, that actually then wasn’t.
A truly inspiring example of leadership in action.
Leadership inaction
One explanation is that they don’t understand just how unpopular the bill is apt to be when it takes effect. Many Republicans rely on party-aligned media for their news, and these sources have mostly cheered the bill while ignoring its downsides. Both chambers of Congress have rushed the bill through with minimal scrutiny, shielding members from exposure to concerns. Even the White House seems unaware of what exactly it’s pressuring Congress to do. Yesterday, when a reporter asked Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt about the megabill’s proposed tax on wind and solar energy, she appeared totally unfamiliar with the measure and punted the question. (The tax provision was later removed.)
Passing the buck. Coward. You’re a US Senator. Act like it.
(though I guess these days cowardice is exemplary of Senate behavior).
Also, I’m totally sure Walz would’ve cast the tie-breaking vote for such a shit bill, isn’t that right couch sitters / stein voters? Try not to fall for the right-wing wedge driving disinfo ops next time please… If there is a next time.
Edit: Tankies, gullible Stein voters, accelerationists, nilhists, couch-sitters, vatniks – whatever you are – complaining below. Try your best not to feign too much concern over the passage of this and subsequent damage the GOP is doing. You don’t get a say here since obviously you believe Harris would’ve done the same, like (checks notes) booting millions off medicaid that will according to experts lead to 50,000 deaths annually. Some would argue such people who asserted a BoTh SiDeS fallacy are complicit in those deaths.
Now if you’re willing to admit your mistake, then welcome back.
Try not to fall for the right-wing wedge driving disinfo ops next time please…
You say as you push more right-wing disinformation.
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition
The Democrats wanted Trump to get elected which is why they threw the election in favor of him by running on a platform of watered-down Republicanism. These are the same people that passed Trump’s budget bill earlier this year, which retroactively made all of his illegal executive orders legal, and who just voted against impeaching Trump. They want these tax cuts for the wealthy and all the other abhorrent, vulture capitalistic shit just as much as Republicans do.
Take off your blinders already and stop supporting fascists.
Hahaha bystanders observe the absurdity of this claim. Talk about a non-sequitur.
I’m all for shitting on AIPAC Dems, but all this proves is that right-wing disinfo ops convinced people like you to amplify their bullshit and sway larger swaths of people. So good job parroting right-wing disinfo when you could’ve done hard work actually telling people what Harris was without question the better candidate on a multitude of issues.
Maybe less drinking right-wing kool-aid and more door-knocking.
You can’t even respond to the multiple pieces of evidence listed demonstrating that Democrats collude with Republicans against the populace and instead have to resort to ad hominems. People like you are the reason why Trump is on his second term as president and why the Republicans control the entire government. You’re working for the fascists and you can’t even see it.
Because it’s irrelevant. Even entertaining collusion, your argument that we cut out the middleman and hand the keys to the GOP is unquestionably worse in every logical way.
Last I checked, Dems gave more aid to Ukraine. Are you saying you’re complicit on the Russian genocide against Ukraine?
You’re the reason we have Trump. Absurd.
How the fuck is the DNC actively sabotaging themselves and acting as little more than controlled opposition in elections “irrelevant” to the fact that Republicans now run the entire government? This is complete nonsense.
There’s no “handing the keys to the GOP” when they already have the keys precisely because of Democratic aid that they continue to give to this very day.
Last I checked, Dems gave more aid to Ukraine. Are you saying you’re complicit on the Russian genocide against Ukraine?
More nonsense. You’re clearly unable defend your position and you refuse to even acknowledge the mountain of evidence against it, so now you just resort to acting like a short-circuiting chat bot trained on Nancy Pelosi’s talking points.
So you’re condoning genocide and dodging the fact that Democrats were objectively better for the people of Ukraine?
Classic deflection.
If anyone is looking for their grandpa who escaped from the local memory care facility, I think I found him.
disinfo ops
Just saying, this destroys any point you might have had. Genocide isn’t Russian disinformation.
I said right-wing, not Russia. Try again, maybe?
But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though. No surprise Republicans are in bed with Russians I suppose.
BTW, that you fixated on this destroys any credibility you may have had.
I said right-wing, not Russia.
Oh you’re right, my bad.
But now that you mention it, the MUh boTH sides false equivalence fallacy is textbook Russian IRA troll farm tactics though.
Because the Democrats weren’t supporting Israel’s genocide just as vigorously as the Republicans? Remember the North Gaza offensive? The war with Lebanon? Bombing the shit out of Syria? Bombing Yemen? Sometimes equivalence can be true, too.
Let’s pretend they’re the same on genocide (they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted), but:
In a binary choice election with the inevitable choices being Harris or Trump, one opted to assert both sides / false equivalence Harris being obviously better on:
- Climate Change
- Healthcare
- LGBTQ+ rights
- Women’s bodily autonomy
- Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
- Economic Inequality
- Immigration
Instead one enabled victory for the person who was not only worse in 1 genocide but arguably 3 genocides when counting Ukraine and Climate Change.
It logically makes zero sense.
Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera
I’m sure the dead would take great solace that their killer didn’t also have real estate ambitions.
leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted
Biden was not known for standing up to Israel, to put it mildly. When Harris was asked what she’d do differently than Biden, her answer was “there is not a thing that comes to mind.” She later amended that to “what’s the difference between Joe Biden and me? … I’m going to have a Republican in my cabinet”.
LGBTQ+ rights
The “T” there being the people the Dems immediately tried to throw under the bus when they lost?
Economic Inequality
I mean, look at all the love and support the party is showing Mamdani after he kicked Cuomo’s ass in the primary 🙄
Look, I get your point, and I voted for Harris (grudgingly), but until we primary enough of these crusty old Republican-lites in party leadership these losses are just going to get worse. They yelled and screamed (rightly) about how Democracy was on the line, and when their option was “save Democracy or move right” they chose the latter.
Respectfully, I don’t see the sense in complaining about “wedge issues” and then turning around and driving wedges between you and other people trying to get the party’s head out of its ass.
I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit. Respectfully, of course.
Sounds like one is complicit in genocide with respect to both climate change and Ukraine.
(by the way: you love mamdani; if they’re all the same, why did he run as a Democrat? You should hate him too, right? So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?)
I love how you dodged more than half of the issues, knowing you didn’t have jack shit.
Hence your substantive engagement on what I did mention?
you love mamdani
Never claimed this.
If they’re all the same
Never claimed this.
You should hate him too, right?
None of this is about hate, it’s about which policy decisions are better than others.
So I guess they’re not all the same and Democrats are, objectively better, is that right?
Again, never claimed.
Everything you’re saying comes across as being less about “how do we improve things” and more “I need someone to be angry at.” I would propose directing that anger at the politicians instead of your fellow voters.
(they’re not, because Harris wouldn’t have advocated turning it into a riviera, cut USAID that helped Gazans, or escalated in bombing Iran, leaving aside the fact that Bibi explicitly wanted),
Slightly less fascist rhetoric doesn’t matter if it’s not accompanied by actions, I haven’t heard of significant USAID involvement in Gaza during the war, Democrats haven’t opposed the bombings much* and fascists aren’t the smartest bunch, respectively.
*This is a valid point, but I disagree. I know about the war powers resolution, but no establishment Democrat leaders have actually indicated they’d use that to stop the bombings. Schumer simply wanted the bombings to be done with congressional approval. The bombings are much better understood in terms of Israeli domestic politics given that Netanyahu’s government was facing dissolution. If anything Trump did get Netanyahu to stop; I’m not sure we could expect the same from AIPAC Democrats.
In a binary choice election with the inevitable choices being Harris or Trump, one opted to assert both sides / false equivalence Harris being obviously better on:
Okay but the very real problems that depressed Democratic turnout weren’t disinformation; the Democrat pitch was legitimately terrible. Whether that justified not voting aside, scathing criticism of the Democrats was justified and not disinformation.
Like I said, you willingly threw Ukrainians under the bus in this self-defeating mindset, leaving aside the other issues mentioned…
So just tell me you don’t care about:
- Climate Change (and resulting deaths)
- Healthcare
- LGBTQ+ rights (and resulting discrimination)
- Women’s bodily autonomy
- Ukraine (and Russia’s ongoing genocide in Ukraine; so are bystanders complicit in genocide there?)
- Economic Inequality
- Immigration (and resulting deportations, alligator auschwitz, etc.)
And I’ll actually understand a little better!
Also you weren’t aware USAID helped Palestinians? Inform yourself! https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106243#%3A~%3Atext=Fast+Facts%2Cfiscal+years+2020+through+2022.
I’'m not American so I couldn’t vote either way, but calling out assholes like Pelosi and Schumer for being oligarchy and AIPAC stooges is not and was not disinformation. Voting for Harris is its own conversation and has nothing to do with that. Also your link’s information ends in 2022.
