• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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    9 days ago

    Why?

    Why is every company right now making it impossible to understand what their app does?

    I swear to fucking god, I’ve been looking for SAAS products at work to fill a role, they’re all branded as AI and not what the companies actually fucking do.

    Office has like a 40 year plus reputation as THE office suite. What the fuck us copilot? That cheap knockoff OpenAI they debuted before it was really?

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      Because AI on its own doesn’t actually make a return, but by conflating the AI investment with a genuine productivity tool that’s making money, you can start to hide your poor choices.

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        Wow, you are right. This is a way for them to pump the bubble and their stock price up even more.

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          Pre AI: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our office suite!

          Start of AI: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our office suite and 3 subscribers to our AI offering (currently in their free testing period, plans already precancelled)

          Now: Hey, we have 5 billion subscribers to our AI services (that also features an office suite)

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              seems like altman /ms/amazon and google are kinda scammed by nvidia, arnt they less likely to get away less scathed, also oracle.

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                Except Nvidia’s product works. It’s the shit software they decided they needed Nvidia’s product to run that kinda does something but not in a real world usable state, that’s the issue

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                  They’re being scammed in the sense that NVIDIA is selling a product for a usecase that can’t make them money despite NVIDIA advertising (or at least heavily implying) as such.

                  “Look at all these shovels, you’re gonna make so much money if you dig with our shovels, I’m sure you’re gonna find the treasure any minute!” knowing full well that there’s no treasure, or at least definitely not enough for everyone.

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      9 days ago

      I think I know why. Microsoft Office was a product. Their new strategy is Services. They want you to lease their services and have vendor lock-in forever. It takes a long time for businesses to migrate.

      This has MBA written all over it. The idea that AI can just do whatever the client needs means that you can say your service does it all!

      It is a scam.

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        I think I know why. Microsoft Office was a product. Their new strategy is Services. They want you to lease their services and have vendor lock-in forever. It takes a long time for businesses to migrate.

        They already did/do that and it’s called Office 365 and already have vendor lock-in with Windows, SSO services, Azure, etc

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        8 days ago

        I’ve seen people mention it elsewhere in this thread. But what is MBA? I get nothing relevant when I search for it.

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          8 days ago

          Masters in Business Administration. The model by which all businesses have been run over the last century. The guide to late stage capitalism.

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        It’s going to fall apart and the industries using the tools are going to adopt a Unix philosophy of dedicated tools that do a specific job well. May take a Butlerian Jihad, but it will happen.

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          It’s already happening, in part because of this and in part because of the unstable, unpredictable US government.

          Several European countries are looking towards investing in open source as a way to get away from American big tech because they’re suddenly considering US sanctions against them a real possibility, or at least a real threat.

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      It’s because when so much money/power has pushed so long for people to make decisions based on money and not logic, we’ve now arrived at the point where even “the emperor’s new clothes” type moments can’t rein in the insanity; executives are bonused off this garbage and most employees who do know better–thanks to orgs’ own internal propaganda and structures–have given up caring and just publish the garbage and clock out(as they should).

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      It’s not about the user.

      (it’s about sounding innovative and cool with whichever trend to the brainless money people aka shareholders)

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      9 days ago

      I assume it’s for the CEO benefit. “Look boss, we’re pushing AI like you wanted”

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      9 days ago

      FWIW, Office (or more accurately, everything that was part of Office) was renamed Microsoft 365 years ago, in 2020. That was long before the AI insanity.

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        Shouldn’t it be called Microsoft 250? There are 250 working days in a year. As soon as I’m home I’m using Thunderbird or Libreoffice, certainly not the product formerly known as Microsoft Office.

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    8 days ago

    Excel --> Copilot Calculate (356) App

    Word --> Copilot 365 Live Notepad

    Outlook --> Team 365 Share Copilot App

    PowerPoint --> Visual Copilot App Live

    Visio --> untouched

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    They are trying so fucking hard, it’s so sad. Especially when everyone saw that report of them slashing AI related metrics because nobody is fucking using it.

    I can’t wait to build my new PC and install Linux. Cannot wait.

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      I want this AI bubble to burst so bad, let all this bullshit go up in flames. I want to go back to 2017 when videocards and ram were reasonably priced 🥲

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        i want to say we won’t see 2017 this century but i genuinely do not care if we ever see it again,i just want it to end one way or other so i myself will accept any crossfires from these lizards just to end this nightmare.

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      I promise whatever your current PC is can run Linux just fine. Pull the trigger. Install Linux on a USB, boot your current hardware to the thumb drive to take it for a spin, when you can see it works fine, flash the main drive with Linux and don’t look back.

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        That is also the plan! I’m just waiting for 40,000+ photos and videos to finish transferring to a cloud drive I obtained, I’ve got a couple distributions ready to tool around with on a drive, just a few more days and I’m going to finally start the process of getting off this microslop nonsense I’ve been looped into since the 90s.

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      Gameboy

      Gameboy Pocket

      Gameboy Light

      Super Gameboy

      Gameboy Colour

      Gameboy Advance

      Gameboy Advance SP

      Gameboy Advance SP Backlit

      Gameboy Player

      Gameboy Micro

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    I have had open office installed on my computer since 2008. While back then word wasn’t complete shit I was still using it for many years. But now there is nothing Libre office has that word doesn’t so fuck MS office.

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    Ok so there are 3 microsoft products called copilot now. Surely this won’t confuse anyone

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      9 days ago

      Are you including Github Copilot in that count? Technically that’s a Microsoft product. It’s probably the only Copilot that’s actually useful.

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        A controversial take. Every new feature added to Github has made it more unpleasant to use, and a lot of that is down to Copilot, for me. Only way to get rid of it is to wait for Github to go down again, which is the only thing it does reliably at the moment.

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          I get the Pro version for free since I’ve worked on a few popular open-source projects. I’m using it in VS Code and it’s helped me write code for systems I’m unfamiliar with. I’ve used it to summarize the architecture of open-source projects so I understand how to contribute new features. The autocompletion can be pretty good too. I also use it to review my code.

          We use Claude Code with the Opus 4.5 model at work, and it’s quite a bit better, but I don’t want to pay that much for an AI model for personal projects since I use it so infrequently.

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          Every new feature added to Github has made it more unpleasant to use

          Free private repositories, Github Actions, and Github Packages are all pretty useful though. All of those were added under Microsoft’s ownership. Actions got a head start because it was built on top of Azure DevOps infra that Microsoft had already created.

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              Plenty of open-source projects that I use are happy with them though. I see far fewer projects using Travis CI and AppVeyor these days for example.

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                Do they use them because they’re "just there* and convenient, or do they actially like them?

                And TBF I was largely referring to how poorly they’re written and performant, which you often don’t need to care about (until you do).