• Panties@lemmy.ca
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    15 days ago

    No earphone jack again. That’s a bit sad. Even though I mainly use BLT earbuds, I still sometimes wish I could use my wired headphones. It’s just a small inconvenience

    • Laser@feddit.org
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      15 days ago

      I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced…

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        15 days ago

        After having a phone without a 3.5mm port or a microSD card slot, the top 2 features I want on a phone are a 3.5mm port and a microSD card slot.

        Shame Sony discontinued their Xperia 5 series, even if they were also excessively priced.

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          15 days ago

          aw man, this is the first i’m hearing about discontinuation. apparently it’s because people want larger phones?!

          i have a 5 IV and it is by far the largest phone i’ve ever owned… i wish it was like an inch smaller. but it was the only model i could find that doesn’t have a non-rectangular screen. these bloody camera cutouts are everywhere and i never even use the front camera.

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            15 days ago

            Yep… everyone wants phablets. Apparently.

            I don’t mind the cutouts (if done right), they just sit in the notification bar, so they never obscure anything anyway. That’s a place Sony could have shaved off the extra height imo, the top and bottom bezels are pretty unnecessary.

            We are slowly moving to under-screen cameras now though.

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      15 days ago

      Not having a headphone jack is just a slap in the face from a company whose whole image is supposed to be longevity and eco-friendly.

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        14 days ago

        No one has been using aux cable mobile headphones for the past 10 years. Headphone jack is e-waste at this point. bluetooth audio is great and if you really want to be a boomer you can use the usb C headphones.

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          14 days ago

          Headphone jack is e-waste

          you can use the usb C headphones

          What the absolute fuck are you talking about? What am I supposed to do with the dozen wired headphones I already have? Some of them decades old? Throw them in the garbage? Sounds real eco-friendly.

          bluetooth audio is great

          It is. We had it on phones since before the original iPhone. No one wants to take that away.

          Problem is BT headphones last 2 years then they go in the garbage because the batteries are dead. How eco-friendly is that!?

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      15 days ago

      Probably not a popular thing to say on here, but I think you’ve lost the battle for the earphone jack. It probably just requires way too much real estate to be practical on a modern day cell phone.

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        14 days ago

        It absolutely does not. That’s just the stupid propaganda companies distribute to make people buy wireless earbuds.

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        14 days ago

        It absolutely does not require too much space. And you can still buy phones with headphone jacks, just not any of the (ironically) higher end models because OEMs know they can push their first party bluetooth headphones to these customers.

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        15 days ago

        Exactly this, that’s a lot of space taken up to connect what 4 analog wires?

        That’s insanity when a AUX to Usb-C converter does the job

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          14 days ago

          USB-C requires a lot of space for charging, data transfer etc.

          Let’s remove it too and make phones rely on wireless charging instead.

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      15 days ago

      Honestly, I don’t really get the people who complain about the lack of 3.5mm jack on a smartphone. If you’re looking for quality you’re more likely to get better quality out quality USB-C headphones than quality 3.5mm headphones due to the USB-C headphones picking up less noise and having its own DAC (which is probably better than the phone DAC that 3.5mm would use).

      EDIT: I would’ve been surprised if this take wasn’t controversial. But I guess it’s a good example how the fediverse is not a leftist echo chamber. You have a loud minority complaining about not being able to use a century old technology that the vast majority in the mobile space has moved away from and any compromise on what you want is unacceptable. That’s about as conservative as you can get.

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        14 days ago

        You are completely and utterly wrong. I’m pretty sure that a $700 phone’s dac is better than what you can find on a $5 dongle from god knows where. Also, by design there should be no “noise” or “interference” causing issues with the internal dac. If there is, you bought an extremely shitty device.

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          14 days ago

          You know you’ve got not argument when you have to compare a $700 dollar phone to a $5 dongle for your argument to even make sense.

          First of all, I seriously doubt any $700 phone without a 3.5mm port is going to have a decent DAC, because there’s no reason for it. In those phones the DAC is used primarily for phone calls. If those phones had a a 3.5mm port and they were flagship phones then maybe they would have higher quality DACs in them, but then they’d also cost more. And secondly, I wasn’t talking about some cheap $5 dongle, I specifically said quality headphones.

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            13 days ago

            You know you’ve got not argument when you have to compare a $700 dollar phone to a $5 dongle for your argument to even make sense.

            Oh, so I should buy $100 dongles then? lol Everyone’s argument about the dongles is that they’re super cheap, that’s why I made the comparison.

            In those phones the DAC is used primarily for phone calls.

            Oh really? And how exactly do you think that the phone is generating the audio that comes through its speaker when you’re doing anything else? Like listening to music, videos, etc? Does your phone really not make a single sound apart from the audio in phone calls?

            I wasn’t talking about some cheap $5 dongle, I specifically said quality headphones

            headphone =/= dongle

            The dongle is what you connect TO the headphone. Regardless, be more specific then. What’s the one you recommend? Should I buy $50 dongles then and keep them attached to my headphones? Since I use 4/5 of them does that mean that it’s ok in your opinion that I now need to spend $250 in dongles instead of just having a tiny, cheap, reliable jack on my $700 phone?

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              13 days ago

              How much more specific do I need to be when I explicitly say “USB-C headphones”? What do you think USB-C stands for?

              You could’ve done a single web search yo find that you can buy wired headphones that go straight into the USB-C port.No dongle required. But you’re too busy foaming from the mouth like a rabid dog to even understand what I said.

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                13 days ago

                Well, you do need to be specific because like 99% of headphones terminate in a 3.5mm jack or a quarter inch jack. You were referring to a vert very limited subset of headphones.

                It’s honestly kinda dumb to buy a headphone, which only needs an analogue voltage signal to work, that terminates in usb-c. Specially considering that there are still loads of devices that don’t have that port. Even if a computer has it, it’s likely that it only has 1 or 2 of them which might already be in use. For example, my work laptop has 2 usb-c and I’m using one of them to charge it and the other to connect a monitor.

  • altphoto@lemmy.today
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    15 days ago

    Good, I only want to pay for the parts that don’t send my data to Google and their partners.