Trump also told the Times that he isn’t opposed to using nuclear force if he “needed it” to take over the Arctic island but that “it might upset NATO," since the island is a self-governing territory of NATO member country Denmark.

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    I want Donald Trump’s neck in a guillotine. It’s psychologically important to me.

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          You’re gonna be ready for a long time then.

          Thats not how any of this works, pretending away a problem and just magically snapping back to “normal”.

          That doesn’t happen in situations like this, go read a history book.

          “Normal” is gone, never to return, because “normal” was built on too many lies, lies whose contradictions led us to this current moment.

          This country will literally never be the same, it will be fundamentally different for generations, this Trump era is going to be a … whole distinct defining subsection of our history, not unlike the way Nazism was/is for the history of modern Germany.

          There is no pinch me and wake me up from the nightmare.

          The nightmare is real, and it will take effort, conviction, and courage to try build something better.

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            I don’t mean “normal” for the U.S., I mean normal for the rest of the world. I legitimately don’t care how this transition ends up going for the U.S. I just want to be rid of them.

            The U.S. was never a good country. The colonisers were religious extremists who left Europe because their views were too extremist for us, even way back then. It’s built on a foundation of genocide and murder, and it never grew past that. It’s never cared for its people. It was always an oligarchy, that was literally the entire point of the U.S. gaining independence from the British crown.

            Trump being in charge isn’t really that different from before. He’s unhinged and less political, but he didn’t set all of this up. All of the systems that enable him were already in place and used by those before him. The U.S. was always a conniving and manipulative country, it’s never really had allies, just tools. It’s sad that it took this long for so many to realise, and even now our politicians are hedging their bets that things return to the old status-quo when really they should be severing all ties and leaving the U.S. to collapse in on itself.

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              Uh, well if the transition goes very poorly, uh, WW3 starts and maybe we all get nuked, so, you might wanna care about that.

              And … given what you’re saying now… by ‘this whole thing over and behind us’ and you ‘just want to be rid of them’… you mean…

              … just, ctrl+z on the entire history of the US?

              You mean the US becomes ‘normal’ by some other other country or countries standard of ‘normal’?

              My point remains, you have to get from point A to point B, somehow, whatever your definition of point B is.

              No disagreement that US has sucked in a whole lotta extremely horrible ways, since before day 1… but… my point is that wishful thinking is pointless, its actually just virtue signalling.

              You’re just saying that… the US should just magically go away or transform… somehow…?

              Yep, US bad, we agree.

              US bad, but what do about US bad?

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                I agree. People are understandably distraught and need to vent, even though that venting might not make the most rational sense.

                In the end, I think any “capital-S” State power can have fingers pointed at all the ways it’s abused that power regardless of the consent of the governed.

                There are still good things people of the US have done (even still doing, however ignored and against the odds), good people are everywhere, and to say “US always bad burn it all” feels like an emotional and lazy take that abdicates the responsibility to combat evil, and lets it run roughshod with a shrug.

                We must hope fiercely that we can replace this flawed and exploited system with something better, or we have nothing to fight for. “Something that’s not this” is not good enough and won’t unite people to make a difference.

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    White House correspondent Katie Rogers — whom Trump recently called “ugly, both inside and out” for writing a story about his age — chimed in to ask, “Psychologically important to you or to the United States?”

    “Psychologically important for me," Trump answered. “Now, maybe another president would feel differently, but so far I’ve been right about everything.”

    These were hard times for The Onion staff.

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    Maybe the best solution is to build a Truman show like simulated world and contain the Trump problem in there.

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    He already has an emotional support Venezuela why does he also need an emotional support Greenland too?

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    “we’re not going to have Russia or China as a neighbor.”

    Alaska has some news for ya, buddy

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      Somebody told him that he couldn’t do anything he wanted whenever he wanted to, and he took offence to that.

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      Then we’re stuck with Vance, who would have a couple of years normalize MAGA, and get reelected in 2028.

      Better to let Trump burn it to the ground, and then crush and purge MAGA once and for all.

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        Idk, Vance has always been distant from the rest of the administration, and simply put he has no rizz. Utterly sauceless. There’s nothing fun or whimsical about him that MAGA chuds can project a parasocial relationship onto.

        Plus, his wife isn’t white, which is already a big problem for large swaths of the Trump base.

        I just don’t think he has it in him to hold the MAGA coalition together

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          Vance (a) would not be able to play the “drunk master” game (b) does not have the political capital of Trump.

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          I just don’t think he has it in him to hold the MAGA coalition together

          Nobody does, it’s a classic Cult of Personality. MAGA is all about Trump, and when he assumes room temperature, it’s all over, except for the backstabbing, recriminations, and rationalizations.

          Sure, there are plenty who will claim to be his successor, including Vance, Rubio, Hegseth, Bondi, etc. But they will be attacked by Don Jr, who surely sees himself as Trump’s obvious successor, and possibly other Trump inner circle loyalists. Then there are the “reformers” like MTG and Hawley who will be burning down the MAGA house. Then there will be the hapless, feckless Trad Republicans, claiming to have been held hostage for over a decade, who just want to revive their honorable party. Blah, blah, blah.

          We can’t forget that the Republican Party is as dead as the Whigs. That was just they’re larval form, before they morphed into their final form - MAGA. They are all MAGA now, and MAGA must be crushed and purged from our government, and our society.

          But if we just wait them out, MAGA will probably mostly end itself, they are that virtuosically incompetent. The only problem is the massive damage they’ll do along the way.

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      This is the most effective distraction yet; waging war internally and threatening externally.

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        I’m so tired of this stupid argument. At some point his “distractions” become worse than the Trump-Epstein files. Starting WW3 is one of those things.

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          Doesn’t that make it even all the more worse? People dying in wars started by a deranged child molester. A country would rather have a war against their allies and go down in history as the greatest betrayers in history rather than admit their leader is a child molester and remove him from power.

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          I don’t even think Trump cares about them. It’s not like anything would happen to him if he’s implicated in them.

          He wasn’t lying when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and no one would do a thing.

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        We already have evidence of him being in there via failed redactions, realistically what more is going to happen if more is released?

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          Nothing. The thing he said about openly shooting someone in the street without meaningful consequences is getting more and more true every day.

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            He stole classified documents and led a violent insurrection and nothing happened. I’m not sure why people think evidence of him diddling kids would be any different.

            If anything the files are the distraction.

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        cute how you guys think MAGA will stop supporting Trump because of the Epstein case. They just wish they could afford kiddie rape island.

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      They’re still being used as a distraction from the heritage foundation’s fascist takeover of the country.

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    Donald: Why are GenZ’s having time off and can do what they want for their mental health? Why can’t I take care of my mental health by taking Greenland?