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  • I get all of that, the point ive been trying to make is that the risk of them being pollutants is relatively low. The reason I brought up these rare but notable events for example is cause they are so violent as to create traditionally synthetic materials that are extremely deadly, the reason we even know about them is because of highly specific forms of weathering on say fossils or bones with the younger ones.

    The problem I have with your pollution point is that there is basically no way for it to all get out and get to everything. A facility failing in Idaho probably wouldnt do anything to California unless Yellowstone went off and at that point we have other problems. Any containment failure would be largely localized events unless they are right on a river or ontop of an oceanic stream. Which to me just means we need to build these reactors qnd their sotrage facilities in infinitely more remote locations. If anything us not having a centralized stockpile makes such a mass containment failure pretty much impossible. 90,000+ metric tonnes of material isnt that much scattered across the US, sure its a lot but for perspective thats about one and half M1 Abrams.

    Also im somewhat ignoring your points on variable emitters since without actual numbers we have no clue what it all constitutes. Without numbers half of it could all be materials set aside for depleted uranium rounds or alloys that use spent fuel in production, orr it could be a shit tonne of high energy emitters. We dont know and I kinda doubt the agency in charge of this has public numbers.

    Also I agree with you on reactivating these old reactors, I want them upgraded before use preferably ones that can reuse old fuel. Also frankly I dont trust these AI companies to run old reactors, its an annoying amount of work for basically no gain. The only upside is that it may give new fuel towards building modern reactors that have minimal waste and upgrading old reactors. Hell preferably we would have some thorium-plutonium reactors built into the mix.


  • Its barely detectable the reservoir effect isnt strong enough to do anything, frankly speaking ocean acidification is the bigger problem. Hell im pretty sure the only reason we can detect it in such small amounts is because radiation detection equipment is old, universal, and well developed. The closest second is probably arsenic or lead testing.

    Also the reason that I dont considsr it an extinction level threat is because we have had equivalent amounts spewed out through natural means. That is to say there are multiple layers of minerals that are identified via nuclear materials, include ones we traditionally consider synthetic. To put it lightly according to you these layers should all be associated with global mass extinctions but only two of them are, the grest dying which was when Siberia decided it in fact wanted to be a volcanic hellscape and the Yucatan impact aka when an asteroid made sweet love with the Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs.

    Also as a quick aside the current effect that is going on with animal life in the Pacific from those materials is a recycling effect, basically the animals are pissing and shitting it out of their systems where smaller creatures proceed to eat and and then repeat ad nauseam. The only way the situation could get worse is if the decay rate of said materials increased which is impossible without a reactor.


  • Wow all of what you said is bullshit or overblown alarmism, bavo bravo. No it wont sterilize the fucking earth, if it was possible the iridium layer would’ve done so eons ago. Also sure we can detect the left overs from Fukushima, but its still lower than the effect most volcanic events have on local water tables since volcanoes actually have quite a bit of raw nuclear material mixed quite toxic too.

    You wouldnt need to dig deep enough to chuck it into the mantle, just deep enough to compress it into a particularly exotic ore when you cave the entire damned mine in.

    Also the reason I dont care about 10,000 years from now is cause mankind will either be gone, so primitive it doesnt matter, or technologically advanced enough to deal with the problem. As I said all of human history fits into 10,000, years with about 4,000 to spare.



  • We can literally toss such waste into deep mines and forget about them. You are talking about matters on a timescale so massive that it becomes utterly meaningless to those who exist now and will exist then, the best solution is to leave as much of a footprint that the sand of time doesnt erase it in the vague hope that our distant descendants may be able to source a theoretical problem.

    Do you know what our ancestors were doing 10,000 years ago, because I only know the broadest of strokes. I severely doubt they could even conceptualize 10,000 years a functional timescale. Within the last 10,000 years every empire and civilization that has existed has risen and fallen with room to spare. I can get worrying about the timescale of a thousand years but ten thousand is another beast all together.

    I am not proposing being loose with regulations or structure, but moreso pointing out that almost any other problem short of the sun burning out is far more pressing. Hell we could problem accelerate and reverse global warming over a thousand times within ten thousand years. How about we focus on the here and now and not literally the far and istant future when all our cities will have been ground to fucking dust.


  • It was abandoned as a project because there wasnt enough waste to justify the utilities, security, or transportation costes associated. So yes a project can be killed cause there isnt enough waste, especially when said waste can be used for weapons with minimal modifications. There is a explosive disposal facility near me that had to shutdown half of its building because they arent getting enough shit to destroy and burry.

    If you are having to factor in radioactive material on the scale of tens millennia then you are dealing moreso with issues of pollution and chemical toxicity, since by that point its barely outputting more than a background amount of radiation. Unless you think Colorado is a radiation blasted hellscape since half the damned state is a uranium deposit. Just using Chernobyl as an example most of the threat isnt the radiation unless you want to go fuck the elephant foot, its the utterly absurd amount of toxic dust that was scattered everywhere which while harmless outside of your body will fuck you up internally.



  • I know this is ironic given my username but you do realize nuclear waste doesnt work like sci-fi? There was a dump site planned in Nevada that was abandoned as a concept because there wasnt enough waste across the USA, this was at the height of nuclear power too. We have only gotten more efficient since then, hell inefficiency is actually introduced since some byproducts are useful for some alloys and composites.

    Also if ya can find a suitable location nuclear waste can quite literally be ignored till it’s not a problem due to how half life works.



  • No it was very much prompted, this is basically the internet comments section version of talk shit get hit. You spouted off a highly polarizing opinion that people almost universally disagree with on a fundamental level and then got surprised when folks bit back.

    It also wasnt unprovoked you pissed folks off by spouting crap not allowing a lick of nuance. Fuck people probably wouldnt have gotten so pissy if ya just left it at lemmy, but you included all forms of internet communities.

    You made absolutists statements about highly complex sociological topics and then when people gave up on civility and bit back in the tiniest of ways you act as if you just had your arm blown off. You are a child if not literally then in mentality.

    You reap what ya sowed, and you sowed anger. Dont expect folks to try to build a community with someone who claims to not believe in it. Go cry wolf elsewhere.


  • You are claiming that you cant build a community online, something most folks disagree with. Then you double, triple, and quadruple down and get surprised when folks get a bit pissy with you. You have had every opportunity to accept that people disagree with you on a baseline and could agree to disagree and bow out, rather than do that you claim folks are being mean to ya and play the fucken victim. Itd be funny if it wasnt pathetic.

    Also yes I would talk to folks like this IRL, hell I may actually be worse since I wouldnt be trying to articulate over text. Ive outright told folks to kill themselves with a smile a mile wide. Believe it or not but I am being polite, I just aint a backbiting Southerner about it and will give my honest words on a matter.