• NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Hey, idiot asses, it’s a meme. That’s just a dumb lighter for idiots you can get on temu. Are you really stupid enough to believe they are handing out flamethrowers because of a post on a meme instance?

  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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    I kind of get it. It looks a little bit scary so you flash it and some intrusive guy should get the message and fuck of. Probably as effective as spring knife would be but more fancy looking. As an actual self defense weapon it would be useless. I would be easy to close the distance fast and knock it out. I guess this is part of the appeal. It looks scary but is not really that dangerous. Knife would be a better weapon but that’s exactly you don’t want to carry a knife around. It turns any fight in a life or death situation while a big lighter like this is just a prop. Anyway, just get some pepper spray.

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      Point at face and pull the trigfer, shortly. Shouldn’t be enough to actually harm but burning hair, brows and eyelashes are great at resistributing attention ^^

      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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        Yes, as I said, might scare someone but will not incapacitate them. Depending on the situation scarring/angering the opponent might be a good or a terrible idea.

    • paul@lemmy.org
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      Until you’re stood there trying to get the lighter to light. Better to just use the hair spray on their eyes then take a step back and give them 90’s frosted tips

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      I carry air freshener spray in my weed bag. The fact that I could create a protective fire ball brings me comfort when I take “nature walks” by myself.

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    16 hours ago

    I am a man. I am buying six of these, a pair of rollerskates, a hockey stick, a mini fire extinguisher, and some string.

    See you guys on TV later!

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    19 hours ago

    Well with women having these on hand at least the incels will finally achieve one of their objectives:

    Women thinking they’re smokin’ hot.

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      There is one benefit to this. If you’re talking to a women at a bar and the people around you starting to move away, you know you’re crossing some lines.

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        19 hours ago

        Typically without solid training what happens is the weapon gets turned on the wrong person.

        But, for the sake of a good time we can imagine some asshole pervs getting lit up like a cigar. Heh heh. Awesome.

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          I hope the QA is good. Training or no training, these aliexpress specials will probably just self immolate in your bag.

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            Idk, having something that could melt metal from a safe distance as a deterrent seems a bit overkill. But don’t take my word for it, I might be overreacting.

            • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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              It’s just running on butane - it won’t have enough heat mass to melt metal (and produce any notable flames). Probably it won’t do much more to a person than startle the hell out of them and maybe ignite their hair.

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                  17 hours ago

                  I think even oxy-butane tops out at 2,000°C (which is 50,000°F or something idk). 3,300°C is around the max for oxy-acetylene, which is I’m assuming what the person writing this was looking at.

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            Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.

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                It’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.

                • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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                  Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.

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                What attacker? There is no attacker, it’s all a hypothetical situation meant to rile up people like you.

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                By that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?

                (Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)

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                  A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.

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                The problem is that who an “abuser” is is extremely subjective. In this case it’s evil men. What if people buy these because they’re scared of evil immigrants? The argument is the exact same.

                And nothing is stopping abusers from getting these too. You think they have a little checkbox on the order you have to cross on the form so they don’t accidentally sell them to the wrong person?

                And who are they against exactly, gropers, rapists, people that hit on you in a club, any stranger that approaches you? Burning someone alive is a pretty big commitment, you better make sure you got the right person, or else you’re just another psychopath with a weapon waiting for a chance to use it on anyone you dislike.

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          Also, fire doesn’t just stay put. Yes, you might burn the attacker, but catch the building on fire killing people.

      • tomiant@piefed.social
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        Handing out weapons to the population and expect them to use them responsibly has worked so fucking well so far…

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    If I don’t hear about women being arrested because some creep got immolated for catcalling them, I am going to be disappointed.

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      Over catcalling? That seems somewhat insane though no?

      Unwanted touching or stalking or threatening and such i could see of course, but reciprocating men trying to get a womans attention (in a crappy and rude fashion) with literally death and/or permanent disfigurement and pain is a little drastic.

      We rightly abhor the insane acid attacks committed on women over some minor transgression out of some fucked sense of honor, sometimes happening in certain countries; how is this a viable position to hold just because the genders are reversed?

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        The European age of mass human sacrifice in the form of witch burning (1450 to 1750) is certainly something we don’t want to bring back.

        If someone’s physical safety is under threat then this seems like a reasonable tool for self protection.

        Let’s hope someone doesn’t abuse it.

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        Theres catcalling, and then theres catcalling. Someone shouting something across the street should probally be ignored if possible.

        Someone coming up behind you to tell you they are going rape you? Fire time.

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      Well, that’s the issue I find with this device, the same as guns or general physical force used against harasment and violence against women: it just leads to the woman getting arrested because the issue in the first place is that law enforcement and courts DO NOT take harasment and violence against women seriously

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        Bingo. This isn’t a solution to the problem, it’s a response. The actual problem isn’t being addressed in the slightest. People defending themselves will continue to get blamed for standing their ground. The only solace to be had from that is that women being arrested for “assault” will serve as external confirmation that these things are being used and that they work.

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      I too hope that anyone using this shit gets prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law.