• bampop@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      It’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.

      • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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        17 hours ago

        Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.

    • tomiant@piefed.social
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      21 hours ago

      What attacker? There is no attacker, it’s all a hypothetical situation meant to rile up people like you.

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      23 hours ago

      By that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?

      (Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)

      • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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        23 hours ago

        A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.

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          22 hours ago

          And has easy access to guns never caused problems? Possibly more problems than they’ve solved?

          My problem isn’t with people deterring potential attackers or fighting off actual attackers. My concern is with the potential for misuse, and the fact that labeling this as some innocent means of self-defense is covering up the fact that it wouldn’t be limited to being used exclusively by victims. That’s just marketing. Any psycho could buy one of these.

          • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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            22 hours ago

            Yup. That’s the available option.

            Maybe we should try to address the issues with the longstanding preservation of rape culture. When that never happens, though, this is what we are left with. You’re mad at the pen, you should be mad at the person who threw the pen.

            • tomiant@piefed.social
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              21 hours ago

              You are mad at men, just like racists are mad at immigrants. There is literally no difference in your worldviews, only the targets.

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                  17 hours ago

                  You’re mad at a bogeyman, and I don’t trust you with weapons, because then I will have to get one too, to protect myself from psychos like you.