The problem is that who an “abuser” is is extremely subjective. In this case it’s evil men. What if people buy these because they’re scared of evil immigrants? The argument is the exact same.
And nothing is stopping abusers from getting these too. You think they have a little checkbox on the order you have to cross on the form so they don’t accidentally sell them to the wrong person?
And who are they against exactly, gropers, rapists, people that hit on you in a club, any stranger that approaches you? Burning someone alive is a pretty big commitment, you better make sure you got the right person, or else you’re just another psychopath with a weapon waiting for a chance to use it on anyone you dislike.
It’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.
Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.
A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.
And has easy access to guns never caused problems? Possibly more problems than they’ve solved?
My problem isn’t with people deterring potential attackers or fighting off actual attackers. My concern is with the potential for misuse, and the fact that labeling this as some innocent means of self-defense is covering up the fact that it wouldn’t be limited to being used exclusively by victims. That’s just marketing. Any psycho could buy one of these.
Maybe we should try to address the issues with the longstanding preservation of rape culture. When that never happens, though, this is what we are left with. You’re mad at the pen, you should be mad at the person who threw the pen.
Great, create more fear in society and pit people against each other and give them weapons, too. Winning concept.
Abusers should be afraid. 🤷♂️
The problem is that who an “abuser” is is extremely subjective. In this case it’s evil men. What if people buy these because they’re scared of evil immigrants? The argument is the exact same.
And nothing is stopping abusers from getting these too. You think they have a little checkbox on the order you have to cross on the form so they don’t accidentally sell them to the wrong person?
And who are they against exactly, gropers, rapists, people that hit on you in a club, any stranger that approaches you? Burning someone alive is a pretty big commitment, you better make sure you got the right person, or else you’re just another psychopath with a weapon waiting for a chance to use it on anyone you dislike.
What’s wrong? Rape plans derailed?
You’re real scared about getting set on fire, huh?
Spoken like a true klan member.
You understand that nobody is handing out flame throwers, right? You know that this is a meme, right? You can’t really be that fucking stupid, right?
I see, it’s all just a joke and you’re frothing at the mouth like a rabid dog because it isn’t serious. Right?
Yeah, that’s what’s going on, sure. Keep going, I love you chuds. Point out more about how angry I’m getting about the meme post.
Pit people against whom? Their active attacker? Who are you worried about making afraid?
What attacker? There is no attacker, it’s all a hypothetical situation meant to rile up people like you.
Rape is a made up hypothetical situation?
Are you being raped right now?
Oh, you’re right. You’re so right. I’m not getting raped, so it doesn’t exist. What a relief.
Also, nobody is getting flame throwers, jackass. Congrats on outing yourself as a media illiterate rape advocate because of a meme. Cheers.
Yep, people who don’t agree with you are rapists. That’s a sign of intellectual maturity right there. QED, psycho.
Make sure to downvote this one, too.
Edit: I feel so acknowledged, thanks for doing as I specifically commanded you to do. Good boy.
Yeah, that’s exactly what’s going on here. Right again. You’re the best kind of guy.
It’s just a weapon. It can be used by anybody, against anybody, for any reason. Being willing to use a weapon against other people doesn’t mean you are justified in doing so. This particular weapon is probably most useful for disfiguring people. There’s a fair chance that some over-entitled ex-boyfriends and stalkers might find a use for it.
“Solar panels cause climate change” type argument.
BS
Do you want to get embarrassed over getting defensive about a dark joke shitpost in a meme sub about women defending themselves against the onslaught of rape the world throws at them and how the systems in power refuse to give a shit about to the point of them requiring lethal disfiguring weapons (as a joke, as this is just a stupid temu lighter intended to be used simply as a lighter for people stupid enough to buy one, if that wasn’t fucking obvious.) to stop it from happening to them or do you maybe just want to fuck off about it? I’ve still got more in the tank, but I’d rather do other things than point out how fucking stupid it is to take shit like this seriously to the point of arguing against it as a safety issue. I just got off of a rare slow shift at work and need to play with my cat.
By that logic, shouldn’t everyone carry a gun too? If it’s theoretically only going to be used against an active attacker, what’s the big deal?
(Note: this isn’t an argument for carrying guns)
A lot of people carry guns specifically for that reason. I’m not saying it’s a perfect solution, but it speaks of a bigger issue that is being ignored. If people are forced to look out for themselves then the options become very limited and outside of the possibility of anything approaching ideal. I’m not choosing to worry about the attackers getting set on fire in this situation, my concerns and those of the people who have a need for things like this have already been outright ignored entirely. People don’t have a better option, it was taken from them already.
And has easy access to guns never caused problems? Possibly more problems than they’ve solved?
My problem isn’t with people deterring potential attackers or fighting off actual attackers. My concern is with the potential for misuse, and the fact that labeling this as some innocent means of self-defense is covering up the fact that it wouldn’t be limited to being used exclusively by victims. That’s just marketing. Any psycho could buy one of these.
Yup. That’s the available option.
Maybe we should try to address the issues with the longstanding preservation of rape culture. When that never happens, though, this is what we are left with. You’re mad at the pen, you should be mad at the person who threw the pen.
You are mad at men, just like racists are mad at immigrants. There is literally no difference in your worldviews, only the targets.
I’m mad at systemic patriarchy, you’re the one playing the victim and taking that personally. Curious.
You’re mad at a bogeyman, and I don’t trust you with weapons, because then I will have to get one too, to protect myself from psychos like you.