Support among House Democrats for impeaching Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem is skyrocketing, nearly doubling in the last week to 100 co-sponsors.
That’s an unprecedented level of support for an impeachment effort during President Trump’s second term, with lawmakers who have bristled at the topic in the past now warming to the idea.
Kelly is urging Republicans to get on board with her efforts — even as no GOP lawmaker has come close to expressing support for Noem’s impeachment.
“As Secretary Noem continues to lie, obstruct Congress, and violate people’s civil rights, the support for her impeachment only grows,” she said.
It’s all symbolic, which is what DC Democrats specialize in. We have a one-party authoritarian state, and the Ruling Party will never allow it.
The only reason Democrats are supporting this is because its failure is ensured.
Do it! Quit fucking around!
Only now? Lmao
But the miDtErMs bro
Stop talking about it and fucking do it. People are dying in the streets every day.
What about trump? Impeach trump… remove him from office for being a dumb old super idiot man baby… why do we care about this person when the root of the problem is still running the USA…
He only has a couple months left to live anyways
And the VP will be so much better… Wait
So does American democracy
They won’t sacrifice their current golden lamb even if it’s make a lot of things shit. But Kristi, she’s a sacrificial cow. They’d happily throw her under the bus to install another puppet to take the blame.
Let’s not let the perfect get in the way of the good tho
Fair play!
He’s not going to be removed from office when he’s the sitting US president, unfortunately.
Her first. Then Premier Donald.
Fucking kick them out of their torpor. Hell, old man Schmuck get off his ass and smell the coffee. Fix this or cause the worst catastrophe since the Reichstag Fire.
Wait a moment. I’m not American so I don’t understand. In the house there are 213 democrats, so that means more than half of them is thinking that is perfectly fine and normal having someone like her? It doesn’t seem like “skyrocketing numbers” to me. I understand that an alternate headline is “majority of House Dems are against impeaching noem”
Wait a moment. I’m not American so I don’t understand.
House has to research and pass articles of impeachment
Senate has to hold a trial and convict
It doesn’t make it through both; nothing happens.
Senate by the numbers is 53:45:2 Republican:Democrat:Independent.
None of the republicans has so much as mentioned they’d be on board with it.
As seen in many troubling votes, some percentage of our Democrats in both the House and the Senate are probably not playing for the team they say they are.
So, let’s say the House decides to impeach to make a point, even though they know they have no chance of changing the outcome. There will be retribution. We have nazi slogans on podiums and Proud Boys policing the streets. On November 20th, the president called for the execution of democratic law makers five months after the democratic leader in Minnesota was executed in June in a politically motivated execution. I don’t love it, but I understand their apprehension; they’re not that brave.
So we wait until midterms (assuming the president doesn’t manage to start a war to avoid them), where there’s a good chance the senate will lose enough seats and any questionable democrats get displaced by at least centrists.
Then impeachments will happen and probably can succeed.
even if he starts a war, he can’t avoid the midterms. The president has no authority over elections, the states have that authority, overseen by congress. And if states don’t elect new congressmen and congresswomen and senators, then when the currently elected people have their terms end, then the states will not be able to just keep them in position, when their term ends they are out per the constitution, and won’t have a representative until a special election is performed.
Also… I distinctly remember something from my history classes about how Americans react to being taxed without representation… Or at least they did in Boston in the 1773.
We’re using the constitution as toilet paper at the moment. He’s not following laws now, why would he start?
If he says we’re not going to do it, and the scotus says he’s right and half of congress is fine with it, it’ll be a problem
I could also see a condition where the votes are “under the protection” of ICE and it comes out as a landslide victory.
I can see them try to place it “under the protection” but the states need to have a chain of custody for every vote, and whoever signed that custody chain is responsible for it. I dealt with this in the Army as an MP. And it would require the state to be complicit as well and I don’t think most states want to just hand over all their authority to the federal government and turn themselves into puppets. But we will see…
I’m less worried about a chain of custody as I am with them simply using ICE thugs to scare people away from the polling places.
Not everywhere in the country, but they’ll try to use them “for security” in blue, multicultural cities and that’ll fuck up the vote.
That’s my guess.
Thats exactly correct and anyone who tries to say otherwise is either being willfully ignorant or intentionally minimizing this fact. You might also be surprised to learn that many of these Dems voted against impeaching Trump for a third time last year. Their actions speak much louder than words.
They likely gave up because they realized that trying to impeach him is just adding fuel to his bases fire.
You gotta realize that Trump has a third of the country believing that he is a victim of political persecution. The “witch hunt” rhetoric was taken hook, line, and sinker. They sincerely and earnestly believe that Trump is a good man with a righteous vision, who is targeted by “the radical left”, which is “weaponizing” the DoJ or the impeachment process.
And unfortunately, that less than 1/3 of the country lives in the right place to make them worth more than half of the seats in the Senate, so impeachment was bound to go nowhere and ultimately hurt the democratic party going into the next elections.
And this plot predates even Trump’s first term. Part of the reason this guy is now Teflon is that he installed a lot of court seats. Partly due to Mitch holding back the nomination of Merrick Garland, but he was also holding back a shitload of lower court vacancies so that they could get filled by 45.
I agree that he should have been impeached, tried, and ultimately convicted. Honestly at this point, I feel like he should be hung for treason. But politics, sadly, can’t always align with justice.
Lemmy firmly believes that every American is as far left as them, sees things the way the front page sees things, and that Democrats are the real problem. It’s naive and self-absorbed, but there it is.
Not exactly.
For context, a bill only needs one sponsor. Most bills have about 2 or 3 cosponsors. Signing a bill as a cosponsor is not the same as voting, which hasn’t happened yet.
Skyrocketing / exploding numbers doesn’t imply a majority.
A number can grow significantly and still be a less than another number.
exploding
Can’t be an actual explosion because then the Dems would actually be doing something useful.
Man, even when they are doing something y’all just shit on them.
What are they doing? What’s the something?
Half of house dems have just started to do the bare minimum, let’s celebrate!
If you don’t praise behavior you want don’t be surprised when you don’t get anything you want.
No excuse to be below 100%
Greed tho
Could be a strange form of nihilism where you are just looking to salt the earth after the ashes.
I now think Republicans welcome climate change to unlock shipping channels
The excuse that I’ve heard is that it’s the Democrats’ fault for making people throw away their vote.
None of this was necessary.
This is a perfect example of why they’re losing support. Less than half of them even support this despite there being zero repercussions from doing so. Remember when Republicans held 60+ separate votes to eliminate “Obamacare” throughout Obama’s second term despite them not having a majority to guarantee passage of the bill and it seeming completely fruitless? Look where they are ten years later and tell me which is the more effective approach.
Killing people is even more effective. Why aren’t they doing that either?
Probably spineless cowards!
Less than half of them even support this despite there being zero repercussions from doing so.
Well that’s just not true, unless they’re representing a solid blue area. You think Alabama, Arizona, Texas, or Washington Democrats aren’t going to get ‘repurcussions’ from their constituencies for impeaching the head of DHS? Why aren’t they socialist firebrands?
Well, the better question is why aren’t any socialist firebrands in office? (Yes, fine, Bernie. He’s from Texas, right?)
The repercussions for those democrats would be greater numbers of people voting for them in the future. Arizona and Texas have more population that are vulnerable to dhs attacks, so any house members against the impeachment are acting against their constituents. Sure the state government won’t like it, but it would at least be something they do for the people.
The repercussions for those democrats would be greater numbers of people voting for them in the future.
Oh how I wish that was so. We just lost the most important election of our lifetimes because that isn’t so. Maybe some of our louder non-voters want to weigh in on that.
I’m saying that if Democrats fight for the people, they will see better voting outcomes. What does that have to do with the last election? Democrats didn’t fight for us from 2020-2024, so they lost voters, which is complimentary to my point.
It was great that Biden’s policies helped slow down inflation, but that’s pretty much all they did. There were no consequences for treason, no big investigations, no major reforms of the political system, no safeguards for rights put into place. The last thing a major Democrat did in TX was when Obama had tacos in Austin over 10 years ago.
Look at the voting record and it echoes my point.
In 2004, Bush 4.5 million, Kerry 2.8 million
In 2008, McCain 4.5 million, Obama 3.5 million after Obama ran a campaign about a better future giving us something to vote for
In 2010, the ACA passed
In 2012, Romney 4.6 million, Obama 3.3 million McConnell succeeded in preventing a lot of Democrat proposals from being passed and the democrats weren’t able to fulfill a lot of things during the tike before this election
In 2016, Trump 4.7 million, Clinton 3.9 million Marriage Equality had recently passed and Democrats proposed the Equality Act and were very vocal about the potential consequences of an election loss
In 2020, Trump 5.9 million, Biden 5.3 million, Democrats made promises and said they would fight for rights. Many democrats aligned themselves with protests and even with some tonedeaf messaging, attempted to show a united front against the chaos
In 2022, women lost the right to bodily autonomy In 2023, Women’s Health Protection Act was introduced but went nowhere
In 2024, Trump 6.4 million, Harris 4.8 million after democrats revealed the United front was a ruse and failed to follow through on issues that won them the 2020 election even though the threat of chaos was even worse than we had seen in 2020.
We tried to warn you that genocide was a losing issue.
You were so devoted to netanyahu that you didn’t care.
But she needed those millions in lobbyist bribes! Who cares if America falls to Trump when money was to be made.
Yes, thank goodness we saved Gaza by keeping those dems out of office.
Do you get that literally has nothing to do with what we are talking about here?
Strawman argument. People didnt abstain from voting for Harris because it would “save” Gaza. They did it because both candidates shared the common ideal of bombing Gaza to smithereens and they refused to support that.
It’s incredibly disgusting for people like you to now mock others for opposing genocide just because your preferred candidate thought that supporting slaughter was more important than defeating her opponent and it all blew up in her face.
Maybe you should hitch your wagon to better candidates if you don’t want to be disappointed. That’s on you not anyone else. Even now more than a year after the election was decided, you still think standing alongside genocide and Dick Cheney was the right call and can’t understand why you lost. You are the company you keep, buddy.
You make a good argument but I always get nervous when someone says “people like you”. It sounds kind of arrogant/superior. If that was your intention then so be it.
Neom wasn’t voted in. And your comment has nothing to do with the topic anyways.
Noem was selected by who was voted in. You see that, right? Having to impeach her is damage control from letting trump win. That’s on topic AF.
Yes yes
As long as impeachment effort remains divided along party lines, this is not a story worth publishing.
It’s not even on party lines, more than half of Democrats see an innocent woman get shot in the face and still refuse to act.
Yeah, it is. The straggling Democrats need to be primaried. Noem makes up undeniable lies in front of Congress every time she testifies.
Dems growing a spine is a story worth telling.
Secretary Kristi Noem is skyrocketing, nearly doubling in the last week to 100 co-sponsors.
That’s still less than half the Dem caucus on a motion that should be a litmus test for Rules Based Intentional Order liberalism.
I’d say the most damning indictment of impeachment is that it’s not along party lines. 113 House Dems aren’t sponsoring a bill to remove the most corrupt bureaucrat to hold the DHS office.
Dems should be talking about DHS like Republicans talk about the IRS. Not whatever this is.
It is very disheartening that not a single R is supporting this. Or it would be if I had any heart left to dis.
Yes. Let’s not waste any time or money this only creates people hating the dem party even more
The issue is, I don’t think it’s her so much as Stephen Miller. Even so, there is no shortage of individuals willing to take her role.
Yes, do it. Congress desperately needs to reclaim some of its power. But don’t expect her to be the last.
If you sign up to be the mouthpiece you should expect to be one of the first people to get punched in the mouth.
don’t think it’s her so much as Stephen Miller.
Noem was an outspoken fascist from her days as governor. It’s how she got the job.
Might as well debate whether Himmler or Goering hated Jews more.
Fair. My point is ICE will continue as is whomever is charge of it, as long as Miller is there.
But a string of impeachments would prove Congress has some powers left.
Miller could be gone tomorrow and I guarantee there’s a line out the door of like-minded fascists eager to take his place. The entire Trump admin is crawling with these guys. State governments in places like Texas and Missouri and Florida and Utah are crawling with these guys. City governments are crawling with them.
Miller isn’t some kind of Svengali who has tricked the American bureaucracy into behaving this way. He’s as much a product of our fascist socio-economic system as Liz Cheney and Jim Justice and Rudy Giuliani.
But a string of impeachments would prove Congress has some powers left.
I think its fair to say that so long as Republicans control the majority, they’ll be subservient to the Trump admin. But Dems throwing wrenches in the gears by holding up business with impeachment votes would have a two-fold effect of gumming up the horrible business of Congress and spotlighting particularly vile members of the Trump Admin.
Everything you say is true, but he seems to be closest to Trump atm.
What would be nice is an impeachment of Mike Johnson. That would send the Repubs in Congress into infighting disarray.
Honestly, I think we’re completely screwed already. That there’s no gold left in Fort Knox. That they’re compiling a list of everyone who’s voted liberal. And that once this data center crap tanks the country the stock market will toilet. But yes, some final gestures would be nice.
What would be nice is an impeachment of Mike Johnson.
Mike Johnson holds the job precisely because he sucks at it. He’s a threat to nobody. He does what he’s told. He isn’t even good at taking bribes - estimated to be the poorest House Speaker in the last century. Republicans aren’t going to impeach him precisely because he’d be such a bitch to replace.
What’s more disturbing is a future House Speaker Hakeem Jeffries, a man who is far more in touch with the K-Street lobbyists and J-Street warmongers. Just like in 2019, we’re going to see conservative Democrats rubber stamp the Trump neoconservative agenda. And that’s going to set the stage for a frightening 2028 election, when fascists start coming out of the woodwork in both major parties.
Impeach Trump before he starts a world war for crying out loud.
I believe you mis-spelled ‘depose’, or another more ‘effective’ word… ‘impeach’ has beem proven a synonym for ‘wag a stern finger at, accomplishing nothing’.
