You heavily implied they did everything they could and that is not accurate. If that’s not what you meant to imply then your response makes no sense in context.

Is it fake news that any network of poor pedophiles would have been investigated, prosecuted, and imprisoned in much less than 4 years, not even including the time before Biden took office? Why the two separate standards?

You’re presenting additional nuance as if it disproves what I’m saying and it doesn’t. I understand that overcomimg any addiction is more difficult than saying “I’m going to stop this behavior”. However, any approach you decide to take is fundamentally just breaking down that ultimate goal into practical steps. I’ve repeatedly said I agree that there are usually more steps involved but you seem categorically opposed to agreeing that changing your behavior is the goal of any addiction treatment and that seems like a you problem more than a problem with anything that I’m saying.

Of course it is. Do you think “misogyny exists in real life” is a novel idea to anyone old enough to know what that word means? You can’t opt out of being exposed to it in real life though so unless you’re proposing suicide as a solution I’m not sure how that’s related to what we’re discussing. Dumbass.

If you just say “stop using this thing you like” without an actual motivation behind it, you won’t have any more success than if you put a pack of cigarettes on the kitchen counter of a smoker and say “Don’t you smoke these! It’s bad for you!”

First of all, it doesn’t sound like these people actually like these platforms. The article in the OP is about a girl describing the pervasive abuse she experiences while using them. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say in response “you’re clearly not enjoying this so just stop doing it”. Second, that is fundamentally sound advice to both this girl and the person smoking in your analogy. The fact that both might be hard habits to break doesn’t make the solution any less simple. Simple != easy.

you’re ignoring the massive wall of incentive pushed on people by capital forces to use the largest, most commercially active platforms

No I’m not. I specifically called that out in my response. As I said, avoiding them as the solution may not be easy but it is simple in concept. Maintaining your health in all forms is hard to do but the steps to follow are not complex.

I can’t really follow what your imagined argument is about

I have seen people in this thread and others use that argument as a way to sidestep the conversation at hand and pivot to something more juvenile and uninteresting. I added it to head off that line of thinking and prevent this from trending in a pointless direction. If you weren’t about to say something like that then feel free to ignore it but I wanted to make it clear I’m not interested in going down that path with you or anyone else reading the thread and considering replying.

This isn’t realistic to tell a kid who uses social media

Sure it is, you just don’t like the answer. Which is strange coming from someone who is presumably on Lemmy because they didn’t like the way reddit was conducting business and decided to leave. You moved to a competing service, it’s also an option to just not use those types of social media at all.

This thread has real orphan-crushing-machine vibes to it. Many just take for granted that of course kids have to use social media. They don’t and neither do you. It’s not the path of least resistance but why would you expect taking care of yourself to be easy in a society designed to do everything possible to beat you into submission and extract value from the lifeless husk that remains?

“But but Lemmy is social media and you participate here. Curious.”

No, not in the same way that Instagram and the rest are. Pseudo-anonymous forums are fundamentally different both in the way people interact with one another and in the types of content they tend to generate.

Hopefully one of them succeeds before too long

Three screens is bad enough but at least give them headphones. That is ridiculous.

There can be multiple reasons for screens at restaurants

I’ve never heard a good one except from parents who have children with some kind of severe handicap. I know exactly what it’s like to go to a restaurant with children of all ages and for almost everyone screens are not required, acting like a parent is. You can tell the difference.

when you say you see kids glued to screens every time you go out, are you sure you don’t see any who aren’t?

Yes I’m sure.

Every time I go out to eat I see kids of all ages with their faces glued to a screen of some kind while mom and dad eat. Is that a last resort? It looks to me like laziness and a lack of engagement.

Haha do what works for you. I was able to get into them after a long car trip where I forced myself to listen to an audiobook. After finishing it it got easier and easier the more I did it. Now I barely read physical books.

Interesting, than you for sharing. It sounds like your use case is indeed very different from mine. Do what works for you

Are you talking about an NFC payment app like Google wallet? That’s not called a banking app in the US at least. A banking app is made by a bank and is essentially only used for checking account balances and transfers between accounts. Why can’t you use a credit card with an NFC chip in it?

Not off topic at all. I have never heard of it but it sounds interesting. Thanks for the tip

Then refuse to participate. Use open source software and any other kind of system outside their control until they throw you in jail. That’s what I’ll be doing. If enough of us do they can’t jail us all. Participation is consent.

Where can you find the kind of support you speak of? I rarely call any kind of customer service line but I haven’t seen anything but the bad kind in over a decade

I always hear people say stuff like this but realistically how often are you guys using these banking apps on your phone when that is your only option? I don’t even have any banking apps installed because it’s just not something I ever need to look at on the go. Anything I need to do gets done on a different device when I’m at home or I go to the actual bank building (I almost never do that either).

I’m not saying there’s no functionality problems with alternative mobile OS’s but this one in particular just seems overblown to me.

Haha I get that. I was the same way for a long time but gave them another shot a year or so ago and now I’m hooked. They are so much more convenient than physical books

Nice, it sounds like you’re learning stuff just fine. I recommended it elsewhere in the comments here but if you’re looking for audiobook sources I suggest checking out libro.fm. They give half of your purchase price to a local bookstore of your choice and you can download the files in multiple formats with no DRM.

Libro.fm seems to be a solid paid service. They give half of your purchase price to a local bookstore of your choice and you can download the files in multiple formats with no DRM.