Nvidia has confirmed “Globes” report that it has chosen the Israel Land Authority (ILA) area in Kiryat Tivon to build its huge campus that will accommodate up to 10,000 employees.

According to the illustration published by the US chip giant, this will be a large campus inspired by the design of the company’s new iconic headquarters in Santa Clara. When built it will be surrounded by commercial areas and restaurants with investment in parks and green spaces.

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      Neither. Even before seeing this I had decided my next GPU will be AMD, just because of how crap Nvidias driver support is on Linux.

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    Not defending Jensen or Israel, but want to point out that Israel has many good engineers - the Intel team that designed the Core/Core Duo/Core Quad and saved Intel from the Netburst (Pentium 4) architecture was from Israel.

    They have smart people, but I definitely do not agree with their government’s actions.

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      The Nazis had good engineers too. What’s the point of your comment?

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        The point is that’s why Nvidia is setting up shop there. You know… the original story of this thread…

        Anyway, one of the Nazi’s downfall was they kept designing better and better tanks, and that ultimately required more resources to build. While the US just basically kept spamming them with simple design tanks that doesn’t require as much to build.

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      that’s no question, NSO group and I think a few other commercial rootkit makers are also located there.

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    I find it amusing people say they’ll boycott NVIDIA because they set up shop in Israel.

    1. they set up shop in Israel a long time ago (2016 to the best of my memory)
    2. all of their competitors also operate in Israel to some degree

    If you need discrete graphics you don’t have any choice. They all operate in Israel to some degree.

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      Add that to the dangers of oligopolies. They can really just do whatever they want at this point.

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      Intel set up shop in Israel long ago, but I’m still boycotting. At least we have AMD as an alternative.

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    So new nvidia chip designs will include israeli rootkits, got it.

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      I just need to figure out what the best AMD card I can get is which isn’t going to break the bank and be a sizeable bump over my 2070s then I’ll have no more Nvidia products in my home.

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    I was just reading Apple doing all of it’s Silicon R&D over Israel as well. Wondering what Israel is promising them to get landed with lucrative business.

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      Can’t wait for AMD to follow them like the little bitches that they are… Then there’s Intel… I guess they exist too…

      I wish I could make a GPU at home.

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        You technically can, without that large of an investment. It’ll be incredibly weak though, to the point it isn’t useful in the modern day.

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    On a more practical level, why???

    It takes an enormous amount of ultra pure water to make a micro chip. There is a worsening water shortage in that area. This is the worse place to do this.

    Also if you built it in the eu, you have easy access to a huge market and ready customers.
    Also the Middle East is constantly immersed in war. If Iran wants to really hurt Israel just start blowing up Nvidia.

    On a purely practical level, this is really stupid. So the only explanations are politics, or they are being paid to do this. As to whom engineered this I have no idea.

    Edit: The more I dig into it, the more this looks like evil bond villain shit.

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      NVIDIA doesn’t manufacture chips at all (TSMC in Taiwan makes NVIDIA’s chips), so this facility would presumably be for R&D, marketing, devising the next scheme to screw everyone over and increase share value, yada yada.

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        Wait, so excuse my ignorance here, if they are made by others in Tawain, what does nvidia do? They just program them then?

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          You’re not far off. It’s kinda like NVIDIA is the architect who designs the house while TSMC are the guys who actually build it.

          The reason for that split is that maintaining fabs (the facilities which actually produce the chips with EUV machines) is insanely expensive and requires much different staff, resources, and expertise than doing the chip design itself.

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          NVIDIA handles hardware design and software components, TSMC handles actual silicon manufacturing, and a third party handles assembly. This is the case for nearly all hardware companies outside of Intel, Samsung, and a few domestic companies in the PRC.

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            And even those other companies only manufacture some of the components

            Most components they need come in plastic rolls that machines pick up and place on boards, and other such methods

            It’s just like any other business, most stuff is bought and assembled into the final produt, but not produced locally.

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      Lot of Zionists in the Nvidia board and staff trying to tie the worlds most valuable company to the Apartheid state. They want Israel to be a strategic asset like TSMC.

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      It takes an enormous amount of ultra pure water to make a micro chip

      Israel has some of the most advanced desalination facilities in the world

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      The chips are made in Taiwan (TSMC), this is likely for chip designers, (and marketers and executives and sundry other hangers on of little worth), water is irrelevant. Evil on the other hand…

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        Evil on the other hand…

        I agree, it would be much better if Israel were located in some part of (former in that case) Northern Bavaria and its problematic (or not) neighbors were Germans, making them more justified bombing targets. Unfortunately in that case it’d be very likely that it wouldn’t last 20 years. There’d be a combined arms operation, some additional smoke from the stoves, and probably neither the Western nor the Soviet side would care much what their pet Germans are doing.

        Also for the purpose of minimizing evil locating chip design in Israel is not worse than in USA. I’m not sure whether you’ll want to argue that, just adding.

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      If Iran wants to really hurt Israel just start blowing up Nvidia.

      That’d be a great way to get either Maduro’d or more likely Iraq’d unfortunately. War on nvidia is war on Trump.

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        Maduro was given up by venezuela’s military though. That operation was not possible, and indeed would not have been attempted, if the military hadn’t entered into an agreement to stand down, and given intelligence. Helicopters are vulnerable to multiple weapons systems they couldn’t reliably take out, not the least in one of the most protected places in the country with the country mobilized.

        There is no question, the military is now the de facto power, overseeing the now puppet civilian government in selling out their assets, an old cold war template.

        'As such, they would not be able to do that in Iran. What they could do, is assassinate their leaders, including the ayatollah. They have everything compromised more than Iran thinks too, they could. Only the US likely stopped netanyahu from doing so already.

        As to invasions, it has a lot of mountainous areas, and is several times larger than Iraq, which is mostly flat. We could go through and blow shit up with impunity, but an Iraq style invasion is out of the question unless our leaders lose their minds quite a bit more. Not that they wouldn’t try anyway but not now they want to make war on America.

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          We could go through and blow shit up with impunity,

          Iran’s nuclear.

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        Iran would only bomb it when attacked. The problem is that Israel is on a course to invade every country around them and be in permanent war forever. So building tech hubs there is like drawing a giant bullseye on the map

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          Iran would only bomb it when attacked.

          Not quite true, they have a Shia version of Trotsky’s world revolution, except about final battle against evil and apocalypse.

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              Well, it is an Islamic Republic. Of Shia denomination. Shia technically believe in apocalypse and in bringing it close by battling devilish forces. Which Iranian leaders usually associate with USA and Israel.

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          Those tech hubs are like body armor for Israel unfortunately. Most are American companies and the investments tend to be in the range of billions. CEOs of those companies have Trump’s ear.

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      Israel is at the forefront of water purification tech. As long as they have energy they can make water.

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      Maybe they can use salt water for it? If they have to desalianate it one would think that would be a dealbreaker.

      Tis a good question you ask. Why indeed. Just currying favor with the group that controls the superpower I suppose, what with the child fucking tapes Israel has on the president and a critical mass of politicians in the US and UK, and businessman and other swells. And whatever other blackmail.

      I can’t think of any other reasons, other than currying favour with Israel.