Some 8,790 Americans sought citizenship in the UK, either through registration or naturalisation in 2025, according to Home Office data published Thursday.

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    You know the US is a real shthole when people decide to move to the UK, which also is a shthole lol

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      I left the US for the UK well before Trump 1 and am still here. I can confidently assure you that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

      While it’s far from perfect (nowhere is), our quality of life here is far better, and interactions with the authorities and law enforcement are far less brutal than they were in the US. And people here are friendlier. But then, I’m not living in London, which is crawling with driven, greedy assholes.

      The problem with getting your info from headlines is that you don’t know which sources are serving an agenda rather than reporting actual news. One thing that is wrong with the UK is that its media is just as fucked as that in the US. With the exception of a few publications (the wishy-washy LibDem Guardian, the conservative contrarian Private Eye), it’s all billionaire’s bullshit. And 90% of podcasters are semiliterate knobheads who just make shit up.

      Having said all that, it does rain a lot, and despite massive gains over the past few decades, the food still could do with further improvement. But when I return to the US for visits, even in progressive bubbles where my friends and family live, I’m always glad to come back here. Especially when the Greens just decisibely defeated Farage in a by-election and made Starmer look like the wanker that he is.

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      It’s somewhat telling that you comment implies that everyone else has an accent and you don’t :)

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        I’m in England and feel you’re on the money there. Their economy is booming with lots of US companies utilising their tax efficient policies.

        You get the best of both worlds and hey, Americans are always saying they’re Irish so they’re going back to their motherland

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      Having lived there, I agree that Britain is the most Fascist nation in Europe after Belarous and Russia, though theirs is the Posh Aristocratic version, so it’s not as loud and obvious as “strongman” Fascism.

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      We haven’t gone anywhere near being Trump land yet. And the Trump party (Reform) just got wrecked in an election yesterday.

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        You seem to somehow have missed the whole Brexit shitshow, including the Tory party becoming openly Anti-Immigrant, Racist and ultra-nationalist with massive national delusions of grandeur (made oh so painfully obvious when the pranced into the EU exit negotiation loudly proclaiming they held all the cards, ultimatilly showing that they did not and not getting the things they wanted the most).

        (And lets not forget Britain’s very own version of Trump: Boris Johnson)

        You also seem to have missed the insane Civil Society Surveillance levels as disclosed in the Snowden Revelations and the recent legislation forcing Britons to ID themselves on the Internet, which is now being further tightenned with proposed restrictions to VPN use.

        And lets not forget the anti-Demonstration legislation of the last decade as well as the anti-Terrorism legislation and how it was recently used to arrest anti-Genocide demonstrators as “Terrorism Supporters”.

        This is not normal in Democracy.

        I’ve lived in multiple countries in Europe, including Britain, and in my view the UK is the most Fascist country in Europe after Belarous and Russia, it’s just that British politicians don’t play the loud and obnoxious strongman role like Trump or Orban, they play the posh vaguelly aristocratic type who rather than fight the Justice System subverts it to make it a tool to punish those of the riff-raff who are a bit more uppity, hence things like using anti-Terrorism legislation to crack down on those who demonstrate against His Majesty’s Government’s active support of Genocide.

        Granted, given how far the Overtoon Window is to the Right in Britain, I can understand that whilst those outside see the present day Tories as a Far-Right party, for those inside that kind of politics is now so normalized that it’s hard for most to recognize just how Far-Right the present day Tories are both in broader European terms and even in historical British terms, so they only see the even-more-Far-Right insane nutters of Reform as Far-Right.

        Mind you in my experience the shift to and normalization of the Far-Right is one of the things Britain is ahead of the rest of Europe in: I’m seing happening were I am now the kind of thing I saw happen in Britain over a decade ago.

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        Ironically the only reform supporter I encountered is my brother who now lives in Australia.

        He doesn’t like immigrants, we’re English… … umm

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      I can tell you, Americans who immigrate to Canada bring the stupid with them. It’s like, “nice country, glad I moved here, how can we fuck it up like the USA?”

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    I’m not sure that would actually be a step in the right direction.

    They’ve been showing their ass a lot lately.

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      Trust me the Americans leaving the country are not the Trumpers. Now is the time to steal the brain drain for yourself.

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        Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure the original comment is talking about how the UK is pretty fascist and dystopian as well.

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          If you really have a reason to find out, it’d be worth coming here and seeing for yourself. And make sure to see more than London. There’s a lot more to the UK than the metropolis.

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            I think the laws the government are passing around online Id requirements and trying to force companies to break encryption so they can have pervasive surveillance powers are very dystopian and the main thing I’m talking about. I’m sure the people and cities are very nice though, I’ve never been

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    Where are all the racists who claim that they aren’t racist for wanting to deport black and brown people? You know? All those reform voters who insist its not a race thing? Why arent they kicking off about all of the americans trying to come over?

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    The situation over there is as bad as here. Fascism isnt confined to the americas

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    Fight for your country??? Nope, immigrate to an another country.

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    Meanwhile that’s about how many came into the US DAILY during Biden’s presidency.

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    Farage’s Britain is similar-enough to Trump’s America that it’s “golden”, but it’s still less-collapsed than the US, so it’s preferable, right??

    England’s monarchism, its class-religion ( rooted in monarchism, so it’s short-term irremoveable ), & its framing-games ( Brexit was a result of 1 such ) make it the most-similar to the US, except for the “patriotism” indoctrination that is normal in schools in the US…

    it’s a “good” fit

    it’ll have consequences for England, of course, as all population-composition-changes do…

    …helping Farage’s mission…

    You can transplant the body, even the life, but you aren’t changing the religion, & the US’s religion PRODUCED the US’s current-condition, exactly the same as all our countries are in the process of distilling our own national-corruption-essences into authority-institutions, as quickly as we can, because we haven’t got spine-enough to filter-out DarkTriad from authority, in ANY of our countries…


    Note the numbers, though: nearly 9k asking citizenship in the UK from the US…

    https://blog.hireahelper.com/2025-texas-migration-report/ over 0.26-MILLION moved to texas in the year before 2025-Oct.

    Yes, the drasticness of the change is different, but when you’ve got nearly 2 orders of magnitude difference between the opportunism vs the fleeing, then you’re seeing significant evidence of national-nature.

    As a US citizen told me, years ago: “you’re welcome in Texas only as long as you’re leaving: don’t try settling there, no matter where you’re from, you AREN’T welcome there”, & over the years that has become more & more validated.

    Use 'em & lose 'em, right?

    I “wonder” if that paradigm, in-play for workers from other-states, also is in-play for immigrant farm-workers??

    /s

    That the people with-means are escaping, is natural:

    aren’t the oligarchs making certain that they’ve got their isolation, their coddling, & their security, including bunkers, ready & operating, for the butchering-down of the “masses”?

    Why wouldn’t we who can afford to leave impending-hell zones do-so, with our families?

    It’s the same principle…

    We aren’t as causing-of-the-problem as the oligarchs are, but we’re still accommodating of the root-problem, & saving ourselves, leaving others to eat the coming atrocities, same as always…

    That woke socialist convict, the root-guru of the Christians, Yesua benJoseph, he got in there with the people who were about-to-be-stoned-to-death, with the convicts, with the crushed, the destitute, etc, & fought for their-validity & their-rights…

    No wonder he was exterminated by the privilege-conservatives of his time.

    ( he was conservative-of-LivingWorth, conservative-of-LivingPotential, & conservative-of-LivingOpportunity, so pretending, as the privilege-conservatives do, that THEY ALONE “own” the meaning of “conservative” is false, & always has been: they just conserve different things.

    As a delightful Jewish mind on a TLC TV-show, last-century or so, identified: when benJoseph got violent on the commercial-operation of the Temple, that was an incredibly Jewish thing to do! … he was being conservative, just of the essence of Judaism, instead of its forms … & that difference is important.

    All the false-framing in the world isn’t going to go-away for no reason: it has to be force-displaced! )

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      Farage’s Britain

      Farage holds no office and his party has 8 MPs. Almost half of them hadn’t run as Reform candidates, but instead jumped ship from the Conservatives. By comparison, Labour has 404 MPs. The fasc-friendly media would love to market Reform’s success in 2028 as inevitable, but it’s just as likely that they’ll do well in the 2026 mid-terms (which are for local government positions), then fall on their faces in 2028 once people see how fanatical and incompetent they are when they’re in office.

      Also, there’s a (small) chance that Labour will unwedge its collective head and pass much-needed laws reforming foreign funding of election campaigns and transparency of party donations. If they do so, Farage will be fucked.

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    Send them back. They left without cleaning up their mess, that’s not how we’re raised.

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      The ones leaving were likely against creating this mess, and it’s unfair to apply a group punishment to someone based on where they were born.