Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

  • BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip
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    6 days ago

    Hi, failed expat here. Tried to move to Guelph legally in 2023-24 because Nazification of the USA was incredibly obvious to anyone who reads. Canadians changed their laws to be racist to Indians and excluded me, even though I am a white masters degree holder who had professional connections in the region.

    When I die fighting ICE outside of some middle school because I caught them trying to kidnap people at my work, know that I would have lived in peace. I literally just wanted to eat delicious cheesecake in Guelph with my hot wife (who doesn’t have full rights in the fucking USA).

    *edit: I want the people who are downvoting this to explain to me which part exactly they disagree with, because I think the implication is pretty disgusting generally.

  • velindora@lemmy.cafe
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    8 days ago

    Americans know. They just don’t have any idea what to do, and no single person can solve the problem.

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      7 days ago

      and no single person can solve the problem.

      That’s a big part of their problem. They keep thinking about individual actions instead of coming together and acting as a group toward a common goal.

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        8 days ago

        The world doesn’t need to go to war, it needs to stop being afraid of a major economic downturn.

        Stop everything with the US: trade, travel, everything. Deport all Americans back to their native soil. Isolate them, and see how quickly things change.

        While we’re at it, do the same with Russia and Israel. And maybe China?

        Would it cause a global economic crisis? Probably. But people are already dying—it’s worth it if we can actually end a genocide and a couple wars.

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          So much this. Just 100% stop all trade with the United States. All of it. And zero travel. Then ban US travel to your country. Give them the isolation they crave.

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            No, definitely impose sanctions and stop trade, but don’t ban travel. Let the brain drain do its thing.

            Some of us do not consent to the actions of this rogue administration, and we don’t crave isolation. Some of us desperately want a way out of this country.

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        Nah. Just start selling the US bonds that backs the US currency. The USD with crash in value.

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          Most of the people in charge don’t have their value in USD, they have it in material and speculative value. The crash of the USD will hurt everyone but them.

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            Crashing the USD would be its demise as the global reserve currency, which would evaporate all that speculative value overnight.

            Sure, the oligarchs would still have their mansions, bunkers, and bullet-proof SUVs, but their primary source of leverage and influence would be gone. They would become irrelevant.

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            Would this finally cause the american population enough distress to heave themselves off their armchairs, put down their hotdogs, turn off the TV, and get out the guillotines?

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              No that idea died when the military became infinitely more advanced than the populace

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    Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?

    Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.

    Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.

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      Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.

      As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.

      THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.

      Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.

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        I am Mexican Canadian.

        Mexico hasn’t forgotten about all the stolen territory. Yes, they call it sale and secession and whatever, it was stolen.

        If I put a gun to your head and ask you to sell me a property you have for $10. You are going to do it. I’d say I purchased it. I’m sure you’ll say I stole it.

        So, why do disagree?

        Because of the wise reflection of “first they came for the…”

        Well. If we don’t stand against them taking over Venezuela, who is going to stand with us when they try to take over us (Greenland, Canada, Mexico and the rest)

        The manifest Destiny is no joke.

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      Poland was the last step, which is what started WWII. I think you mean Czechoslovakia (or maybe the Rhineland) was the first step.

  • prototypez9er@lemmynsfw.com
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    8 days ago

    Dear Canada:

    Issue a warrant for Miller and his fascist wife and abduct them in the middle of the night.

    Apparently we will just go with it now.

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      The tiny news item a few months ago about Miller and family moving out of his suburban house and onto a military base with the flimsy excuse about feeling threatened by sidewalk chalk doesn’t seem so amusing now.

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      I don’t, but also I’m fucking doing it. It takes all of five minutes. You’ve got the time to do it. You might as well. It can only help. It won’t solve the problem, but it will make it harder for them.

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    There’s way too many, like myself, who can’t even afford to take a week off of work much less however long it would take to revolt.

    And we’d be going up against a military that just waltzed into another country which has a functional and organized military and expect to succeed against them grassroots?

    I don’t think anything will happen before a state or group of states splinters off with their national guard as support.

    We’re definitely not laughing. Well, not the ones against him - which does seem to be the majority, at least when you’re here.

    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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      8 days ago

      This is really it in a nutshell.

      I’m honestly not sure what to say to the Europeans and other non-Americans posting a lot on Lemmy lately, who seem to think all Americans - even those who have opposed every Trump action and have despised Trump since the 90s - are individually to blame for Donald Trump.

      I’m like: Imagine everyone around you decided you were going to be married to an abusive spouse. You never agreed, yet sure enough, one day you woke up legally married to, and having to live in the same house with, a delusional, malignant narcissist abuser. No divorce possible, consent was never required after all. And if you tried to ask for help, your neighbors - who want you to know they absolutely hate abusers! - would spit at you and say, “Take care of your own problem!”

      Ok, thanks, appreciate it.

      • lzrSnap@piefed.social
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        8 days ago

        You know its even worse than that - fascist or fascist adjacent parties are leading in polls in the UK, France, and Germany simultaneously. Canada and Australia only avoided electing mini trumps as a response to trump. And that’s only speaking of the larger countries. When I hear someone on here go off about how the “world” has always known the US is just bad I’m amazed. Can you not see what is happening in your own countries? International capital is making its move, and something is happening across the democratic world.

        Cribbing this from some tumblr i saw: “My wish for 2026 is that Europeans will be as critical and vigilant about authoritarianism and racism in their own country as they are about them in the U.S. and that Americans will be as critical and vigilant about authoritarianism and racism in the U.S. as Europeans are.”