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- games@lemmy.world
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- games@lemmy.world
Now we can not buy their games on Steam, too! 😃
It’s funny because if Bethesda, EA, Ubisoft and Epic joined forces to make one platform they could put a dent in the steam monopoly.
But since they’re bunch of shittiy toxic managers with mentality of screwing everyone around for their own benefit, it’s never going to happen. They will always fail and crawl back to Gabe
Homie, motherfucking Microsoft couldn’t put a dent in STEAM.
Please Microsoft couldn’t even maintain Skype dominance after they bought it.
To be fair they bought skype to break it’s end to end encryption at the behest of the us govt. In return they were awarded big contracts.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
True, they ended P2P networking and proper encryption. It was pretty obvious in the context of Prysm scandal
For a short period, yes probably. But Bethesda is a failing studio and so is Ubisoft. EA has popular sports games but I’d guess that’s a very small portion of PC sales considering those games do poorly on the platform compared to consoles. Epic does have loads of money but not enough to float the other companies.
In my view, Microsoft and their GamePass stuff is the only real competitor that will ever take a small dent out of steams sales, mostly because of the Call of Duty titles being on there now. But in order to take 0.05% or whatever of their sales they had to: own the OS for almost every computer running steam, buy dozens of game studios, compete (and lose) in the physical console market over decades, and they had to buy not one but two of the largest studios out there. To the point where they own a significant portion of the iOS App Store that is orders of magnitude more money than PC games and still they cannot compete with steam on their own operating system.
If that doesn’t spell out how unstoppable Steam is, I don’t know what will. The thing that might actually hurt Steam is if those publishers were all GamePass exclusives. Even then, Steam would be just fine I think. Crazy.
Steam is untouchable until Gaben dies. Then God help us all.
I hope he’ll turn Steam into non-profit before he dies…
Ubisoft left steam? Didn’t even know it, their games have gotten terrible reviews for so long, and their uplay platform is so shitty, I have skipped them until they fixed their game dev or cancelled uplay, haha.
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Didnt even know they left. Not bothered with any of their games in so long.
Epic enshittified early. The whole system was terrible and they force it onto you. Here is valve actively making it easier to play your games while epic was like “It’s PC gaming, you get the good with the bad, suck it!”. You can’t simply buy your competition when your competition has more money than God.
Epic is failing because Tim Sweeney refused to innovate the platform.
Fuck Tim Sweeney with a linux powered dildo.
He is the reason linux gaming is being held back.
Even Microsoft doesn’t seem to be actively preventing their games from running on Linux. Fuck Sweeney.
I played Forza Horizon 4 and 5 on Linux with no issues. But I give the laurels to Steam and Proton.
Oh, yeah, Valve and Proton are to thank. I’m just saying Microsoft’s not blocking Proton like Epic and a few others seem to be. I can appreciate the stance of “We won’t help you, but we won’t stop you either. Good luck” that I think MS is taking with this.
Honestly, Linux is the reason Linux gaming is held back.
I’m running Linux for my couch based gaming and the experience is awesome. Much better than Windows ever was.
What makes you think that Linux is holding Linux back? The UI can be completely customised which makes Steam OS wonderful to use while Microsoft completely ban any customised interface out of the box.
Windows is only popular through inertia.
The reliance on the terminal holds Linux back.
The second there’s a problem all the guides on how to get stuff configured or fix a problem start with… open Terminal. At that point your average user is asking for Windows.
I say this as someone with over twenty years of experience with Linux. Users hate command line interfaces.
Man, I don’t like the Steam monopoly on principle, but I have to admit I do struggle to pay attention to Epic exclusives. It’s simply the launcher I open the least after GOG and Steam. I’ve though “hey, wasn’t that Ubi Star Wars thing out” like two or three times and forgot about it between remembering that’s an Epic thing and deciding whether I wanted to buy it.
But hey, since we’re going multiplat again, I could use some newer Ubi games on GOG, too.
Valve is just one shite CEO away from going from PC’s blessing to its curse.
I choose to believe that Gabe’s will bequeaths Steam to a cohort of independent non-profits and co-ops which will each be charged with attempting to continue to elevate gamers and gaming according to Gabe’s 1,200 page manifesto.
GabeN will name twelve disciples who will spread His word and continue His work.
At twelve disciples, that means he can give each pair one of his mega yatchs. I’m sure with a third of all gaming profit coming their way, the twelve of them will be able to afford the 100 million per year it costs to maintain the fleet worth around 1 billion.
He’s not Jesus, he is just a piece of shit billionaire like the rest.
Whoa, you should preface your posts with a warning, lest anyone cut themselves on all that edge.
It’s a good monopoly, for now and hopefully for a long time.
The fact that Valve went out of their way to make gaming better in Linux, says a lot imho.
The only good monopoly is one where the profits goes back to the population or the customers.
It’s a private company, so you could argue that the profits go towards the employees and the customers in the form of improvements. Not shareholders.
Well, that and the several billion dollars in Gaben’s bank account.
Private companies are still corporations, guys.
There is no such thing as a good monopoly. He leverages a 30% tax on a huge chunk of the gaming industry. Steam, Microsoft, Epic, Sony and Nintendo all essentially participate in collusion and anti competitive behavior.
Think of all the indie studios that closed and sequels that got canceled and ask yourself if they could have made it if steam only took 5%.
They leveraged linux to save on development and maintenance costs. Capturing the handheld market at a tenth of the price while making the same profit isn’t altruisme.
It’s not like the value added for that 30% tax isn’t there. Steam has made so many things so easy that it’s easy to forget what things were like decades ago.
If you were an independent game publisher, you had to figure out how to set up a web storefront, a content delivery network hosted in perpetuity, take payments, do multiplayer, add in-game chat, map every weird joystick and gamepad in the universe to your control scheme, achievements, friend lists… And every game developer had to do that independently because there was no public solution, really. The friction to enter the indie dev space was so much higher.
Also, steam does not force you to use their store- you can generate steam keys and sell your game away from the steam platform. The only thing that they enforce is if you sell it for a lower price elsewhere, they’ll de-list your game. Which I think is reasonable.
You can use the same argument about Musk or Benzos as well. Clearly, they are over charging for the value or they wouldn’t be billionaires.
Steam could give the same value on 2% taken and Gaben would probably still be able to afford at least one of his 6 mega yatchs. But there’s indie companies that are struggling where just an extra 10% would go a long way.
In the end, Gaben and his friends greed is killing indie companies, affecting the quality and amount of games we get and is having a detrimental effect on the industry.
Yet because Gaben has a really good pr team and managed to convince everyone he’s “not your average billionaire”, we now have comments comparing him to Jesus and applauding his monopoly as being the only good one. Fucking hell.
That picture of Gaben badly needs the addition of someone feeding him grapes