Anyone have the employee’s contact info. They can come work for me for double.
The twist: I manage a Marriott.
I could see a W hotel doing something like this for some on-brand publicity.
Sounds like an opportunity to find better employment with an employer that doesn’t support fascism and the continued abuse of our Constitutional rights.
Open up a GoFundMe to cover your costs of living while job hunting.
doxxing a public agent
they really are doubling down on that secret police shit, huh?
The privacy and safety of our guests is of the utmost importance to us.
Obviously except if one of their guest has a brown skin, in which case hosting ICE is actively putting them in danger.
One should ask them if ICE would be allowed to arrest guests on their premises.
They’ll say yes obviously, but of all the potential grounds to disallowing them it’d be pretty hard to argue that one.
Staff: are you going to potentially arrest guests here?
ICE: maybe, what’s it to you?
Staff: we can’t have you staying here if you’re going to disrupt our guests or operations. Sorry but you can’t stay here.
Don’t start at a Marriott. Every time I read an article about ICE, they are staying at a Marriott.
Or just go to your local Marriott and play trumpets at 3 am to be safe. You never know.
I’d only heard of Hiltons. That Hampton Inn that was disenfranchised for refusing service to ICE was part of the Hilton brand. Hilton issued an apology to ICE/DHS. Also, I believe, the hotel that drew the loud protest overnight after Renee Good was murdered was a Hilton.
it’s gotta be the Marriott points that don’t expire that keeps them coming back.
Better if you can play a song you know Trump/MAGA/ICE hate.
i would argue it’s even better if you don’t know how to play at all…
Yakkity Sax the whole building every night.
I mean there’s always just pulling some tactics from the past and burning it down. Protect fascists, lose your property. Maybe melt some ICE on the way out. Give them, including the collaborators, something to truly fear.
Oh thats perfect LOL.
“Doxxing ICE officers and agents puts them and their families at enormous risk,”
Uhh yeah, thats the point you dingus.
It’s funny how doxxing a firefighter or a nurse would not put them and their families at enormous risk. Someone should study that…
I propose the general rule of thumb: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fuck_around_and_find_out
Im sure there is a proper paper out there somewhere but im lazy :3
Back in the day the Gestapo were not scared to show their faces. Where is ICE’s american white pride? /s
OK, but in all seriousness…
This is, genuinely, the difference between what’s happening in America today, and what happened in Nazi Germany.
There is, absolutely and without question, a fascist takeover of the US government in progress. But unlike what happened in Germany, that takeover is not popular. The fact that ICE have to hide their faces - the fact that they’re ashamed or afraid to be known for what they’re doing - is huge.
While there were obviously many Germans who did resist the Nazis, on the whole the party was immensely popular. They were tapping into feelings that were borne - or at least accepted - by most of the populace.
There’s a great recent video by American historian Heather Cox Richardson where she and Joanne Freeman talk about how this is basically the last chance for Trump’s admin to truly seize power. That’s terrifying - because they really might do it - but it also reflects a very real opportunity. They can be stopped, and the tide is very rapidly turning against them. Renee Good’s murder, in particular, has galvanized the country against ICE, and by extension Trump. It sucks that it took the murder of a white woman for Americans to give a shit, but they are giving a shit and that’s what matters for now.
Trump’s goons are scared. That should tell every decent American that now is truly the time to push back harder than you ever have before.
Authoritarians always crack down harder when they’re losing their grip. That’s what we’re seeing now. Keep your feet on their necks, get out there, organize, vote, and we will win this!
organize, vote,
A lot of people are going to get upset at you for including “vote” here, but you’re absolutely correct, and those people really need to understand that these are not mutually exclusive imperatives.
That’s because they have a doom kink, are addicted to losing, and desperately want to surrender the issue before it’s even come up.
I will agree that defeatism is always appealing, because if nothing can be done then then you’re no longer obligated to do anything. Expecting the worst is easier than fearing it, because without the chance of success you remove the dreadful element of the unknown.
But with that said, I’d be hesitant to apply any of that to people who resist the idea of voting as a means for change. Many of them are actively seeking change, they just feel that it’s wrong to even include voting in the conversation. And they’re absolutely correct when they say that voting alone will never ever be the answer. That’s an accurate and valid assessment. What I’m disagreeing with is solely the notion, which tends to spin out of that position, that we shouldn’t even talk about voting. Voting matters, but it’s only one tool in a toolkit. If all you have is voting then you’re trying to solve everything with a hammer. But by the same token, you’d be an idiot to throw away your hammer just because you own fifteen other tools.
Wasn’t the height of Nazi popularity (at least vote wise) something like 30%? They got a plurality of the vote and steamrolled from there because of how the Wiemar Republic system worked but they weren’t the majority, at least until it was actively detrimental to not be part of the party.
If that’s some remnant of Clean Wehrmacht or similar mythology bouncing around in my head I apologize.
It’s also just a very different environment. It was very cumbersome to take a picture in the 1930s. Now we have movie theater quality video with stereo audio disseminated worldwide within minutes of a thing happening, if it’s not live.
30% is still a lot
IIRC, Trump received votes from about 1/3 of the voting populace including those eligible and didn’t bother to cast a vote
From what I remember in US History, about 1/3 of the populace wanted a revolution, 1/3 wanted to remain loyal to the king, and 1/3 didn’t care. We are currently around that territory with Trump.
Wasn’t the height of Nazi popularity (at least vote wise) something like 30%?
Keep in mind we’re talking about a political system where coalition governments are far more common. It’s not the two party system the US is used to, so votes aren’t a measure of “popularity” per se. What I mean by that is you can have plenty of people who don’t vote for a party, simply because there’s another choice they like better out of the fairly wide array of options, but that doesn’t mean they actively dislike every option they didn’t vote for just that it wasn’t their first choice. On top of that, the Nazis were very smart about putting in place policies that improved the lives of average working Germans (you know, the ones they liked), and they made sure to start out by targeting the minority groups that people least liked, or cared about, before taking their crackdowns wider.
This has been one of Trump’s major misplays. They went in with their immigration crackdown, which should have slotted neatly into that same zone of “Going after the minority groups people least liked” but in order to hit Trump’s outlandish target numbers they had to start rounding up the immigrants that everyone actually likes. Turns out for the most part Americans actually really like Abdul who runs the corner shop and gives them extra meat on their delhi sandwich, and they really like Eduardo who does their landscaping and is always on time and super polite, and the immigrants they hate are mostly just fictions made up by Fox News. Whereas Jewish people in Nazi Germany really were pretty actively disliked by a very broad swathe of the populace (the roots of European antisemitism go back millennia), so there was a lot less resistance to the concept as a whole.
It was very cumbersome to take a picture in the 1930s.
Yes, but you’re also not travelling as far from your home neighbourhood to do your job as any kind of cop or government agent. So a lot of the people around you are going to recognise you that evening at the bar or grocery store. People generally moved in smaller circles.
German fascists rise to power was also not as popular as the Nazis would have you believe. They did plenty of ginning up of the historical record.
Prior to reforming the SA into the Gestapo and using them to crack down on socialism/communism/labour solidarity the Nazis were in a tenuous position. They held the levers of power and they won some elections, but so did the Republicans
I thought you said “Guspachio” instead of “Gestapo” ADHD brain x_x
Did you think that the Gestapo would have permitted random people to take their pictures and run away?
The ability to spread images and video online nearly instantly has changed the dynamics somewhat.Why an /s? It’s a valid question.
I assume that almost everyone that would do such a “job”, has a certain underlying political agenda. Or at least, plain hatred for everything that is but him. So why would i hide? Unless I know I’m kinda wrong, or even ashamed.
It’s not possible to “doxx” ICE agents. They are not secret agents, they are people who we the taxpayers paid for and their names are either public record or if they are not public record really ought to be.
It’s possible to doxx the agents committing crimes though. You don’t know who they are with their masks on when they commit the crimes.
And well, that should be expected unless you want them to get away with crimes, in which case the criminality just goes up the chain.
Nope. Doxxing is revealing private data to the public. Their identity are public, they’re just choosing to obscure them
Ah, that makes sense. You’re just revealing already public info if you can figure out who the masked person is.
Why would their names need to be secret? Aren’t they public officials? Surely Marriott isn’t admitting that they are secret police? Right?
Marriott is owned by the Mormon church. I’ll let you fill in the rest of the blanks.
Marriott isn’t owned by the Mormon church. The owners are Mormon who follow the church leaders.
See it’s different.
Is it really, though?
I’ll stop by and talk to David Marriott next chance I see him. I haven’t seen him in almost 30 years when he gave me a ride from the Manchester UK Airport
He was an asshat driver through. 1 star.
Some where in the $h!+ stack they still be diddling… Broad strokes for the crazy folks… bag o nutzzzz
They gotta tithe like a left nut or sumtin
hasnt marriot been hosting detainees of immigrants before, they are complicit.
That doesn’t sound complicit, that sounds participatory, or since it’s kidnapping, conspiratorial.
Why is “doxxing” even a thing when we are talking about supposed public officials?
Aren’t we paying for these motherfuckers? Why do they get to remain anonymous while they walk around kidnapping and murdering Americans?
These psychos used to get irrationally pissed off at people wearing masks, who were only trying to protect themselves and others from a deadly disease, but they don’t say a word about these Jackals wearing masks to abuse their fellow citizens.
It’s quite interesting to see what really tips these conservative Karens into a blind fury.
I remember hearing them constantly bitch about seeing people in their own cars wearing masks. Of course they have no context, they just thought that was soy boys being total pussies or overly compliant or whatever the fuck.
They’d bitch that they couldn’t understand people in masks. Of course you could usually hear people if you bothered to listen, but these bitchy Karens were upset that people were even acknowledging that there was a pandemic. They’d rather that everyone had just engaged in the same delusion Donvict wanted to engage in, which was to just ignore it for economic reasons in order to support Donvict…
And now - after all the years where they concern-trolled about “government overreach” and “tyrannical government” they are just fine with the tyranny being done by people in masks.
upset that people were even acknowledging that there was a pandemic.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. For a lot of people, a “just universe fallacy” is how they need to navigate the world for it’s the only way situations like a pandemic make sense. The idea, that anyone, anywhere, at any time, can befall tragic circumstances for no reason at all, is tantamount to an existential crisis. Instead, doubling down on the fiction that “there’s no real threat so quit reminding me that there is one” is the only way to keep it together. It was never really about the masks themselves.
Yeah, I think that’s why lots of them spent a lot of time and energy on conspiracy theory and “doing their own research” (meaning, trading tall tales with people equally clueless about critical thinking).
The notion that disease can just happen - these people also deny evolution so they struggle with this notion for sure - is anathema and threatens their world view. So of course it had to be a conspiracy - China is covering up Wuhan stuff, Fauci did it with “gain of function” research - and that’s when they acknowledge the disease at all. When not doing endless arguing over the source they’d downplay the entire thing. It was “only” the old, it was “only” those with preconditions, and we all just need to “open everything back up” and “get back to work”, and so on, even if millions have to die, because we must make the line go up.
In addition to that, they’d spend lots of time complaining about “the clot shot” and instead do nearly anything but acknowledge that the experts actually know anything and have public safety in mind. Nope, everything is a conspiracy and experts are not really experts, so preventative things like social distancing, avoiding in-person things, doing remote learning and remote work, masking up and of course, the vaccine that was a modern-day moon shot is a big plot to get conservatives or whatever.
So instead, they are resorting to bullshit medicine like HCQ and horse dewormer. Once the stupid train left the station, that’s where it was bound to end up.
I think what really, really broke their brains was the fact that they want to be able to follow and repeat narratives that Faux and Taco make up for them, and those are usually entirely unshakable. Except for something like the pandemic, combined with watching the market and job numbers go into freefall. No amount of spinning from Taco OR Bullshit Mountain was going to change that bedrock truth.
And that infuriated not only a whole lot of redcaps, it drove Taco absolutely nuts. If there is something that the conservatives just cannot stand, it’s when liberals are proven correct, and that was happening nearly every day during the peak of Covid.
supposed public officials?
An overly generous moniker. Call them by their real names. Brownshirts, fascist pigs, gestapo. Public official doesn’t capture their nature or function.
Why do they get to remain anonymous while they walk around kidnapping and murdering Americans?
Because they are the criminal thug caste of the criminal gang that seized power illegally in your country. Your military is breaking their oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
You now live in a gangster’s paradise. A shithole country. A no go zone.
Your military is breaking their oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.
Not just our military, but every politician, of both stripes.
The military really hasn’t stepped over the line yet, or at least not that far. They have been openly reminded by several ex-military members of Congress that they must refuse illegal orders, and MAGA made a big deal out of it, so nobody can say they didn’t understand. So when the moment comes when they are asked to fire on American citizens, then we’ll find out where they really stand.
But the politicians have had many, many opportunities to honor their oaths to protect America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and they have woefully fallen short of that promise, both MAGAS and Democrats.
MAGA represents the biggest national security threat in the history of this country. Even the Civil War was only political. Today we are fighting an international organization of mobsters who have targeted our government for the sole reason of mercilessly and ruthlessly exploiting us in every possible way.
Trump is doing to America what he did to his Casinos - suck every bit of profit out of it, leave the empty shell behind, and stick every one else with the bill. He’s done it several times before, so he’s good at it.
And the politicians are allowing it.
also people commiting criminal acts should be made aware to public anyways.
Someone should start a “Go Fund Me” for the worker.
Or, if the doxxed icers get to him first, a “go find me”. OK, sorry, I’ll show myself out.
What’s that permanent blue ink that explodes and they use to mark stolen bank money? Can we just spray them with that and look for the chubby white guys with an inverse blue mask on their face?
Glitter might be cheaper and nearly as hard to remove.
Fuck nooo we don’t want them pride camouflaging
A criminal identifier spray?
Should’ve been given a medal. Nobel Peace Prize. Hear that, Trump? A hotel worker deserves the Nobel Peace Prize more than you do!
In all honesty then nearly every human deserves it more than that orange child rapist.
A drunk driver who killed a person with their car has caused less death and devastation than the bungling orange sicko.
Ironically, the orange felon-rapist, starting and fueling Wars all over the globe. Peace prize 🙄
And he changed the name from Department of Defense to Department of War. Hardly the message that a Peace Prize candidate wants to send.
Technically, them handing a plaque doesn’t legally change the name. Don’t humor them. It’s still the DoD
The only reason my casino bankrupted was to teach lessons. I give so much when I teach these lessons, I brought my offspring today, you can ogle them, but they’re very expensive. The hotel workers, very strong, pitiful people.
that employee is a brave hero of the working class. i hope more and more people become willing to risk their jobs to fight fascism. fuck marriott hotels.
Willing to help them out, please let me know if a GoFundMe or something pops up
I don’t have much, but I will happily help anyone who resists nazis however I can.
