Summary
Vivek Ramaswamy, co-leader of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) under Trump, is expected to step down to launch a campaign for Ohio governor.
Sources report friction between Ramaswamy, Elon Musk, and incoming DOGE staff, with Musk’s team criticizing his lack of participation and subtly encouraging his exit.
“Vivek has worn out his welcome,” one Trump associate said.
DOGE, a task force to streamline federal bureaucracy, is not a formal agency.
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Seems like it’s Indians turn to experience the “scary minority” moment after Latin Americans and Muslims.
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I think Ohio might be too racist to elect this guy.
I don’t know, Bobby Jindal got elected and so did Nikki Haley.
Of course, they changed their names to something that sounded less exotic to American ears.
It’s Nimarata Nikki Randhawa Haley
I am not cool with that actually. People have a right to use whatever names for themselves they choose. If that applies to trans people, which it does, it also applies to cis people.
If she wants to be Nikki Haley, fine.
I am OK with any and all vitriol being used to fight literal nazis
Don’t you think saying someone is only using her childhood Punjabi nickname is just trying to make people think she’s white is the kind of thing a Nazi might say?
Non-Western names can, believe it or not, sound like Western ones.
I hear what you are saying but in this context, someone is saying Vivek can not be elected in Ohio because of racism… they are saying yes that these folks with foreign sounding birth names were elected but only because they changed their names to something that sounds less “foreign” whatever that means.
While I can agree with you about anyone being able to change their name to whatever they want I don’t think the criticism you are trying to apply here is very…. Without a better word… accurate?
They are simply suggesting that Ohioans will vote for a foreigner or someone if they have a so called white sounding name. I have no idea if it’s true or not, but it feels like you’re being more of a troll here than actually than anything else.
Of course a trans person can change their name so other people can better relate and interact with the gender they identify with…. I hear you saying that you are trying to be true to your beliefs whether you support the persons politics, which is awesome I hope we can all strive to do the same.
I don’t think the poster cared that they changed their names to become governor of Ohio, but it is interesting… i have not seen or heard of any data that supports their premise, but anecdotally is sounds reasonable.
That may not have been what OP meant, I don’t know. But other people are saying she changed her name to sound white and it just isn’t true.
Has anyone asked her why she changed her name? I’ve heard or read articles suggesting that it was done to sound more white from progressive circles… I don’t really care if someone changes their name but it is interesting if they are doing it because their own constituents would see them as “other” had they not done it.
Ted Cruz is another example I think.
And oh yea don’t we have our first trans representative in congress now? I can’t remember what state but I remember Margerine Green Potato trying to pass a bill about bathrooms in the capitol recently?
I looked it up because no one else bothered to. It’s her childhood nickname and it means “little one” in Punjabi.
People here are just assuming it was about fooling people about her ethnicity.
I’ll default to respecting people’s chosen names, but if they don’t offer that respect to others, they lose it from me.
So if a trans person doesn’t respect someone’s chosen name, you will deadname them? Doesn’t that make you no better than people like Haley?
Doesn’t the trans person not respecting someone’s chosen name make them no better than Haley?
Decency is a social contract. I’ll default to being decent to others, but if they’re not decent to those around them, I feel no qualms with being similarly indecent to them. The difference is that I only do that in response to their indecency and will happily stop if they start being decent. This is no different from the paradox of tolerance.
You didn’t answer my question. Would you deadname them?
Interesting you compare Nimarata’s attempt to cover her origins so she can be more appealing to her conservative audience to the dead names of trans people. I guess you’re saying it’s totally cool to identify as a different race when it works in your favor. Personally, I think such comparisons are an insult to trans people.
No, I think people are allowed to change their names and other people should respect their chosen identities.
I assume you don’t talk about President Leslie Lynch King Jr. despite the fact that he changed his name to Gerald Ford because it sounded more manly, right? Who cares why people change their name?
The whole point is that this should be a universal acceptance thing.
I was born a poor, black child.
Please do show me where she used her childhood Punjabi nickname to convince people she’s white.
My god, there are so many legitimate things to criticize her for and people are just stuck on something that isn’t.
It’s important to remember where she came from
No it isn’t. Self-identity is self-identity. Why should someone be an exception just because they’re horrible? Caitlyn Jenner is a Trump supporter and killed a person. Should we call her Bruce?
Exactly. Until she respects trans people, she’s a Nimrod to me.
On this very singular point, I hope you’re right.
Efficient as hell: first day of the regime and we’ve made it so s department doesn’t have two guys running it
It’s not noon yet Trump isn’t in charge and the DOGE is already coming apart at the seams.
Has the token brown MAGA finally realized his new buddies are using him to prove they’re not racists, and now that Trump won, he’s not needed anymore?
I almost guarantee you that Vivek thinks he’s white. I have met more than one (wealthy) South Asian-American who literally consider themselves white and are just mystified when people react to them with racism because they’re white. One old family friend who’s family was from Sri Lanka was absolutely incensed that he couldn’t say he was white on his passport.
I don’t get it, but that is apparently not uncommon.
I used to work with a dude who, while 100% born and raised in the USA, looked like he fell off the fucking Tapatio bottle. Him and I would go on ambulance calls together, and the folks who only spoke Spanish would start talking to him; he would shrug helplessly at them and then I, like Hank Hill levels of white, would pick up the conversation on pretty solid spanish. (They’d always give him a shit about it, which I found fucking hilarious) It straight up stumped me for a second when he started talking about “us white people” and it wasn’t a joke. Still not sure what the root of it was, but I found it to be a really powerful and interesting political science moment. Dude’s daddy was rich and he didn’t want for anything, their family were some of the only Latinos in the area, and also his Latino heritage was about 0% important to him, so those things may have each or altogether had something to do with it.
Is it a caste thing, maybe?
I live in Latin America, and most of the people I talk to consider themselves to be white.
Race doesn’t have a valid scientific basis, so I guess it’s one of those “eye of the beholder” things. But I doubt that the MAGA crew would look at your average Colombian or Venezuelan and think, “Oh, yeah, that person is on our team.”
Well there are plenty of phenotypically white in Latin America because of historically large migration from Europe. In South Asia, there are those with fair complexions but few who’d be considered “Caucasian white”.
He was all for deporting naturalized citizens too, he is naturalized citizen himself
Trump official dropping before he even takes office. Speed running this time around.
Negative Scaramuccis.
Sorry I’m not familiar with US units, how much is that in heads of lettuce?
One Truss Lettuce is 49 days. A mooch is 11 days, just under a quarter of a truss lettuce.
The lettuce was bought, in the car on the way home, and just before arriving it was tossed out the window
Unofficial, and non-office.
He’s running for governor of Ohio. God damn that poor fucking state. I mean really I know they deserve it to some extent cuz they keep voting for these people, but they have just some of the worst most soul-crushing politicians the last 30 years I’ve ever seen
It’s terrible. Surrounded by idiocy.
LA has worse
I can’t tell if you mean Louisiana or Los Angeles. Louisiana makes more sense in this context because we are talking about state government here, so bringing up Los Angeles would be really stupid.
Louisiana does have worse politicians.
Yeah, if L.A. didn’t have a lesbian firefighter in charge of fighting these fires, there would never be any wildfires in Los Angeles County.
Lesbianism causes pyrokinesis. FACT.
We’re just lucky she’s white.
Pretty sure they’re talking about Louisiana, not Los Angeles
What the FUCK is wrong with you? Everybody knows that only the lesbians that gather in covens to drink menstrual blood by the light of the new moon get pyrokenesis the rest just get headaches as they have to deal with constant misogyny.
You can’t just claim all lesbians are pyrokinetic
Final edit: could they be talking about Louisiana? They said LA not L.A.
We are talking about elected officials here bud
Oh sorry, you’re right. It was DEI that forced people to vote for one of those FEMALES. And they can’t do anything about wildfires except bleed on them once a month, am I right?
We’re just lucky she’s white.
Weird
Okay, well you feel free to explain what you’re actually talking about here at some point.
Two people can’t run the same bureau.
You’d think there would be some government agency whose purpose it is to identify redundancies like that…
The Department of Redundancy Department?
No no, think about it. One guy does the daily operations. The other does big picture stuff. Co-managing. I saw a documentary about it. It’s genius.
DEI hire couldn’t cut it I guess.
Great, let’s just leave it all up to Elon. What could possibly go wrong?
The only thing worse than 2 billionaires leading an unregulated government entity is a single billionaire leading it. Giving Elon completely unchecked power.
It’s not a government entity.
I don’t think it even exists. We all know Elon doesn’t do any actual work beyond tweeting and giving the engineers his latest harebrained idea. Have they started hiring staff? Office space? Anything to prove they exist at all?
The man just did a Nazi salute while standing behind a podium with the Presidential seal on it at the Inauguration. All bets are off if you are thinking of government as it existed before this moment.
He has enough money to do what he wants. And there are enough idiots around him that believe his bullshit and applaud.
On Twitter they were asking people to work there for free.
Came to say the same thing, it’s not even a real department, trump isn’t president yet. You can’t leave a job that never existed.
It’s about to be. That’s going to be one of Trump’s first executive orders apparently. That and declaring an emergency on the border with Mexico and canceling the Green New Deal.
Federal agencies cannot be created by executive order, only acts of Congress.
You still think they give a shit about the law. Amazing.
It’s more about funding and authority than anything else. Musk has to front the money to run the think tank tank and they can’t actually do anything becuase they have no authority to operate. It’s literally going to be a group of people making recommendations that congress would need to pass.
Okay, but like… How does it work?
Trump: I declare the department of DOGE
Now what happens? Elon starts introducing himself as the head of DOGE? Congress sets the budgets, so they’re not going to get public funding. They’re not public officials, and they have no authority, so Musk is just going to show up at the department of education and order them all to go home?
No one is going to go after Elon or Trump about it, but if they start printing up their own badges, do you think random people will be immune to the law? Especially after Trump repeatedly showed how he doesn’t hand out those promised pardons most of the time
It’s basically just a think tank at that point, and Trump could act on everything they recommend… But Trump would have to do it. It would probably get in the way of golfing and watching fox while live tweeting
It’s not like Vivek was going to even check Elon. It’s funny how he left it before he even started though.
Cheer up, Brian! Now they can’t blame anything on each other.
The one thing we have going for us is that this current iteration of fascists are way stupider than the last batch
The last bunch were stupid too. People made fun of Hitler’s sub-literate use of German and his lack of education. Most of his flunkies were dimwits too. It didn’t stop them committing wars of aggression, mass murders and genocide, though.
The odd exception was Mussolini, who was a journalist and novelist prior to becoming the gurning bullet-headed thug he was later famous for being. And, if we’re talking about psychopathic shit-sacks in general and not just fascists, Stalin was an award-winning poet before finding his vocation as mass murderer and totalitarian despot.
Stupider, yes, but they seem to have learned one thing - fire all the competent people and replace them with lackeys who won’t try to interfere with implementing your intrusive thoughts simply because they’re illegal or pointless or impossible to do.
