And so cometh the foretold LSW (Linux Subsystem for Windows)
And with it, the infinitely recursive wsllswwsllswwsllsw…
It’s subsystems all the way down
Always has been
So… What make it’s different from PlayOnLinux or Bottles or Winetricks ?
They can’t run Adobe. This runs a full VM constantly in the background that you can pop up when you want to use the Windows desktop to install things etc. It’s a completely different set up. It can also run ArcGIS Pro, which the other methods can’t.
So this can run latest MS OFFICE and Adobe Suite you say ??
It can even run pirated versions, don’t ask me how I know! 🏴☠️
That’s even better !!!
yar har har
Why would you want that though…
Well it’s not my own choice, my office has standards.
And if it can run FL Studio, adios to dual boot. 😄
FL Studio and most VSTs already work in WINE.
me running adobe ps cc 2023 in wine for the last 2 years: * stares in doubt
I’ve tried and failed to get adobe ps or lr working through wine, do you have a guide you followed or something I could try?
https://github.com/Gictorbit/photoshopCClinux
iirc I used this one
How different is it, then, functionality-wise, from VirtualBox or VMWare?
None, you’re essentially putting that in the background without a display. I think the app works by tunneling the windows app into a little display window… I assume. I think it has to be a trick with displays, when I consider what I know by breaking mine a lot. :') Someone smarter than me on ths can correct me.
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ESRI sucks horribly, getting away from that trash is a good idea.
There is no good use case for that crap.
Lmao, agreed. QGIS is my main, but there’s some things I need via the enterprise side/legacy files. It gathers dust more often than not these days.
That company is just a cult more than anything else. It irks me to no end that they require a license to do anything. Edit? More money. Spatial Analysis? Even more money. Oh you want to share that thing you made? Lets get you started on the cloud/portal/server plan. Oh you want that server to have any kind of uptime? Better buy the monitor tool!
Everywhere you turn with those ass hats it is another license, more bugs, and slower.
I move almost all GIS functions into SQL. Postgis is a miracle worker and foreign data wrappers in postgres are just awesome. If I need a viewer/editor than Qgis is fanstastic too.
ESRI has the nerve to come up with a way to make web pages and call them “Story Maps”. Get the hell out, that is just a web page!
But their cult loves to belong, and think that GIS means ESRI. They are like addicts.
I really need to learn PostGIS. Got any tips?
If you don’t know SQL at all, that is where you will need to start.
If you know enough to get the idea and are ready to go further than this might help https://postgis.net/documentation/training/
and this is the best book on the subject: PostGIS In Action https://postgis.us/
Postgresql is the database, Postgis is an extension. All modern databases are spatial, but postgis adds so much more. For example, maybe you reproject something with ArcGIS. In Postgis you simply select with the new projection on the fly.
You can clip, linear reference, compare, etc, all the spatial functions you do in a gis tool. Raster, vector, point data, etc.
I appreciate you. 💚
Unlike the Wine based stuff (Bottles, Winetricks), this runs actual Windows as a VM. So compatibility will be far better though performance will be worse.
And it comes with all the downsides that Windows does.
I don’t ever mean to be a downer but I feel this will hurt users in the long run. Just simy extending an umbilicle to Microsoft’s teat because they can’t be assed to let go and stop suckling. M$O and Adobe CC are some of the worst offenders for SaaS bullshittery.
The thing is, sometimes you need Microsoft not of your own volition but because of bureaucracy. When I was signing a contract recently, the government required me to fill in a office word document and it would not work at all on libre, I had to scramble around the house, went through 3 different computers trying to get any of them to have office working after I just recently uninstalled it from all of them to use libre only, but in the end I had to use a university computer to fill in the doc.
As much as I want to move from them, Excel and Photoshop are too advance compared to any alternative, including both FOSS and commercial one.
Even Excel Online is not as advance as Excel desktop.
Casual users can get away from them, not advance user that needs unique feature only available in the software.
You are gonna love only office. Their spreadsheet work as close to excil as possible.
I actually use it for some PC, still missing a lot of features tho.
I’ve used only office and it’s still not Excel. Like the prior commenter said, even excel online isn’t as good as desktop excel. I actually run a VM for just a few apps, excel being one of them.
Well will it run Winamp because I inadvertently read the title as Winamp and now I need it again
Audacious is your friend. It accepts old Winamp skins!
I’ve been rocking the Windows XP skin on Linux Mint
AFAIK I am pretty sure Winamp works fine on Wine.
It really whips the llama’s ass!
*ehc ehc ehc ehceeh
What’s the difference of this and WINE?
tldr: VM->RDP seamless render
WinApps works by: Running Windows in a Docker, Podman or libvirt virtual machine. Querying Windows for all installed applications. Creating shortcuts to selected Windows applications on the host GNU/Linux OS. Using FreeRDP as a backend to seamlessly render Windows applications alongside GNU/Linux applications.
Wine Is Not an Emulator.
This is an Emulator.
Anyone try this yet? Office and adobe on Linux easily working on Linux would be big.
It running in podman just windows VM and connection to real host done with rdp window capture from windows.I tried it not that bad can be used for office work i used it with tiny11
Yea it’s great!
Wait, Docker and Podman can create Windows VMs?
I had winapps setup using QEMU quite a while ago but this seems like a much tidier setup.
Docker and Podman can’t run Windows VMs by themselves. These containers use QEMU, so it’s essentially a pre-made setup for what you already had.
That’s a shame. Still very cool and much tidier than doing it directly but I thought you could actually pull windows:latest now and get going.
I am running it on Docker. :)
Additional Features
- The GNU/Linux
/homedirectory is accessible within Windows via the\\tsclient\homemount
Well I for one won’t be touching this with a ten foot pole.
That’s just a feature of XFreeRDP. You literally just have to delete one flag from the command that starts the RDP client if you don’t want to share you home dir. I’m not sure if winapps-org is still just a shell script but the original winapps was, so modifying the command was trivial.
But having it on by default is a dangerous anti-feature.
- The GNU/Linux
What about graphics acceleration? Does it need gpu pass through?
Running Windows in a Docker, Podman or libvirt virtual machine
Seems to me like GPU acceleration should be supported. Libvirt probably requires dedicated passthrough or sophisticated methods like SR-IOV.
I know there are ways you can tailor your VM to use the hardware, but am no expert.
Does anyone know if it can run Visual Studio? Would be awesome so i could switch to Linux for my Job
Visual Studio Code runs natively on linux. Not sure if that’s what you meant though.
i think they’re talking about the proper old visual studio, a full-blown IDE!
Yes, the full Visual Studio one :)
I suspected as much. I wouldn’t expect that to work on Linux, especially since build the output is to be run on other Windows machines.
it’s listed on the project’s readme!
Ah thabks, missed it the first time reading through it
Probably!
This is (like) virtualbox running in seamless mode…
Paint.net’ child window always got mess up and float across the screen towards the left side
Will this work with music producing software like Ableton or will it introduce too much latency?
It should be ok, I think. I am running ArcGIS which is pretty resource heavy and it works just fine.
Nice I am going to give it a try. Thank you for sharing
I used to use this, but I always found it really janky - window boundaries not updating, weird graphical glitches, etcetera.
It was especially annoying to use with Photoshop and GPU acceleration (I do GPU passthrough to my VM).
In the end, I just abandoned it and just used the monitor the VM’s GPU is plugged into.
