• idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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    Tbh, contact sports seem so much more disparate than non contact sports. Like, I’d expect Roger Federer to respect Steffi Graf (I’m old, okay?), but men’s hockey and rugby players seem less appreciative/respectful towards women’s hockey and rugby players.

    I suspect it’s a combination of the relatively greater importance of strength/mass and the heightened aggression involved

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      I frequently make this error of thinking people who are highly accomplished through perseverance have a good moral compass. It is truly a bad habit. Academia has also let me down.

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      Being part of a minority really highlights how horrible some sport’s cultures can be. If you are a gay or female fan of any sport you have to pick your social circles like navigating a minefield. Lest you end up in the homophobic “let’s lynch the gay guy” or the “gang rape the only woman here” fan-club.

      Sure, the vast majority of sport spaces are not that extreme, but it only takes one, and unfortunately they are a pretty much non-zero number. Sometimes just watching a game alone in you living room can expose you to casual homophobia and misogyny depending on the commenters.

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      There’s probably some truth to this. Men’s and women’s hockey are functionally separate sports.

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      Tbh, contact sports seem so much more disparate than non contact sports.

      Does this also extend to combat sports (e.g. MMA), or is it more of a team sports thing?

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        I don’t know enough mma people to say, honestly. I know jiu jitsu bros, and they tend to be extreme in either direction, but more commonly very cool with women who also do jiu jitsu.

        My sister did a fuck ton of martial arts and some combat sports (no MMA), and is pretty thick skinned about sexism. According to her, the same is true for most martial artists and wrestlers, but boxers are more of an even mix.

        Edit: maybe it scales with head trauma?

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          I was a wrestler in hs. Can confirm I have very thick skin about sexism from the abuse I endured. Because it happens so much, you either quit or find a way to deal with it.

          Those who stick it out survived the selective pressure to get them to quit. So is no wonder they tend to be more uniform than you’d otherwise expect.