• Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    “As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang,” Kris allegedly said. “I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell.” WTF!!! It proves he pointed the gun at his daughter, which is a big fucking NO NO! Worse yet, the damn thing was locked and loaded. Fuck him, charge him with murder.

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      Nevermind that’s all emotional BS.

      He did it intentionally not on accident. They’re trusting the murderer in the m urder case.

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      Where I live, in Europe, you CAN own firearms. Long guns pretty easily, as they are considered hunting/sporting guns, including semi-auto assault rifles, albeit, with 3 round magazines. Buying or even 3D printing larger ones is trivial, but it’s a felony to have one near the gun (same range/car/house…).

      Long gun licenses require a medical, which includes a basic psych eval.

      Handguns require a stricter medical, with a more detailed psych eval, and a course which includes gun safety, and legislation, among other things.

      Except for some rare exceptions (jewelers, judges, and other people that can objectively be considered a target for assault or retaliation) you cannot carry, open or otherwise, except to go to a range, or hunting ground, and the gun and munitions must be separated; guns in a case in the trunk, with the magazine and munitions in the front of the car.

      I don’t get why there isn’t a reasonable license for guns in the US. There is for cars, no?

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        I’m gonna guess there’s no significant hurdle to getting a psych eval in your European country. No expensive medical bill, no worrying about time off from work to get it.

        We hyperfocussed so much on that “shall not be infringed” part that we managed to give up our health and the best 40 years of our lives to the machine.

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          14 hours ago

          Prices for these types of exams are fixed, and not particularly expensive. You aren’t getting therapy, you are being screened for obvious things. Usually less than 30 min. That time does let you find the glaring stuff.

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          18 hours ago

          Also assuming that mental health care even exists in your state…. Oklahoma doesn’t even have providers to get that expensive evaluation from…

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        “reasonable license for cars” lol no. I mean we need a license to drive, but it’s so stupidly easy in so many places and you can fail so many times and still get it. We basically test if the person has a pulse before letting them drive. And based on the driving changes I’ve seen since covid I’m thinking even the pulse has become optional

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          14 hours ago

          Interesting. Here the license has gotten steadily harder to get. I’m sure there are connections: drivers schools, traffic authority, grift, etc, but the fact is that it’s a bit of a hurdle for many.

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      This is just an excuse, dude murdered his daughter and is trying to blame it on the gun. Guns don’t load themselves, and they don’t magically go off…

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      Exactly this. I was taught not to point a gun at anything I don’t intend to destroy, even if I believe it not to be loaded.

      Anything less than that is negligent manslaughter at the least if the gun ‘goes off’ ‘by accident’, because you should never be in that situation.