It’s OK to run a discount for Steam Keys on different stores at different times as long as you plan to give a comparable offer to Steam customers within a reasonable amount of time.

Where in valves policy is it showing they’re affected. That right there is from the link you provided, literally stating its fine to have discounts on different stores. Steam provides the keys for free and still eats the cost of hosting the game if one of these keys are sold on a different store.

https://support.humblebundle.com/hc/en-us/articles/1260804812850-Support-Refund-Policies#%3A~%3Atext=Refunds+are+eligible+within+two%2Ccase+basis%2C+at+Humble's+discretion.

What in the absolute fuck are you talking about?

Just stop…

Those are not illegitimate reseller stores. Those keys are from the devs on those stores. I did not share a link to cdkeys or kingwin or g2a. I shared a link to a legitimate list of stores. If I buy from humble my keys are not going to get banned or not work.

It’s amazing with friends… especially when one of them decides to be the cook, and burns down the base because they forgot to turn off the stove while we’re all out scavenging for supplies…

Surroundead for single player zombie survival

Project zonboid for multiplayer zombie survival

Kingdom come deliverance for visuals and epic story

Hell let loose for FPS shooter

Deadlock for moba/fps

Risk of rain 2 for multiplayer roguelite

The raft for multiplayer survival on water

The forest for multiplayer survival on land

SCUM for pvp survival

That’s all I can think of for now…the fun part of PC is gaming with friends without having to pay a shitty subscription fee.

One such owner is Amazon owner Jeff Bezos, whose $500 million superyacht Koru incorporates sails to help power its voyage. It is the largest sailing yacht in the world, according to Oceanco, the Dutch company that built it. When not under wind power, however, Koru does rely on sports diesel-powered motors. Oxfam estimates that the 127 meter vessel has emitted 7,000 tons of carbon dioxide over the past year, an amount equal to the annual emissions of 445 average US residents.

Estimates and 445 US residents…there is no way yachts are causing even a blip of climate change compared to everything. It’s the stupidest shit ever to point a fucking boats and be like “that’s why we have climate change” on any level. You could snap your fingers and make every single on of them vanish and it wouldn’t do shit to turn the climate change ship around.

Yachts spend 10% to 20% of the year sailing and relying on engine power.

So yea…they basically sit in dock like I said, doing nothing.

The report shows the stark gap between the carbon footprints of the super-rich—whose carbon-hungry lifestyles and investments in polluting industries like fossil fuels

Ah so investments are now pollution…got it.

This is why studies like these are bullshit. That right there was prefaced with “tax the rich, and it’ll magically make climate change less”…which makes no fucking sense at all.

As for your “I better be rich bullshit”… that’s such a copout. I’m not naive enough to think some boats are causing our climate change, I’m also not fool enough to think that rich people investing in industries is the reason we’re in this predicament. Trying to blame others actions while we all contribute to it is a joke. Everything you do contributes to it, you bought anything recently that has plastic? Contributor. You have a 401k? Contributor(apparently). Drive somewhere? Yep you guessed it… contributing. Eat something not grown by you? Contributing.

So let’s stop the non-sense virtue signaling. It detracts from the actual issues.

I’ve literally never seen a tv ad for valve…hell I think I saw a print add in a gaming mag one time…but they really don’t need to spend money on advertising, they provide a service better than anyone else and that’s what keeps them around…EGS has been giving away titles for years now and they’re platform still sucks and is a reason they’re not as big as steam, not because of advertising.

Lol yeah I’m sure indie devs could afford to front millions for carts and CDs.

Also you still haven’t answered my question, show me a indie game that had success pre-steam

So wait you’re only hang-up is that the store has to offer the download? The fuck…

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/red-dead-redemption-2/info/

GMG key for epic is $17.42 right now…steam is…$19.79

Are you still going to blatantly babble false statements?

This is the 3rd time I say this, let’s see if you get it this time.

Except they’re literally listing them on other stores cheaper than on steam. The fuck are you talking about?

They are sold cheaper than on steam…the fuck are you talking about, literally you said they can’t sell them cheaper. And that’s completely false.

Uhh that’s completely wrong. I’ve bought keys from tons of different stores (humble being the majn one) when there were sales going on for the game. All registered with steam keys.

People forget what it was like matchmaking pre-steam. Games would vanish if they weren’t some huge game publisher with a big following.

It wasn’t killed by steam, it was killed by technological progress. CDroms were absolutely expensive to produce, print, ship etc. What do price cuts have to do with availability? As I asked before, when since steam did indie games have the audience they have now?

Also why say CD-ROM wasn’t expensive and then bring up digital? You’re not doing anything to prove steam is this evil thing.

Luckily your computer can run any software you want so there’s no need to build any platform to play videogames.

What’s the point of this comment? This doesn’t answer the question.

I was reply to your concern of people not being able to find their games, the fediverse is an example of how you can build a non centralized network and still bring people together.

Ok then what’s stopping people from doing that?

All of those studies are flawed as fuck. They assume the products the rich sell as polution. Do you sit there and include farmers in it as well because they sell/grow the food you eat which is a huge contributor to climate change. The yachts they buy, sit in dry dock 99% of their lives. You bitching about it is pure ignorance.

The second hand market wasn’t killed because of steam, it was killed because of digitalizing everything…on top of that. The fact that you think physical copies allowed indie games to exist, shows how extremely ignorant of this topic you are. Physical media is extremely expensive, and was not available for anyone unless a publisher took a chance on you. Even if steam didn’t exist, companies would have moved to digital anyways because its cheaper and more people get the product.

Steam has been around for 2 decades now, and I’ll ask again. Please find me a indie game that had success when steam wasn’t around, and find me one that made it in brick and mortar stores that didn’t take 30%+

Uhh no…no they didn’t. B&Ms existed before the net and digital copies became Common place. The indie scene exploded with steam/itch/gog storefronts. The hell are you talking about, find me multiple indie games that have awards from decades ago. I’ll wait.