Didn’t these people just say that genocide is bad? So antigenocide is antisemitic, therefore genocide is Semitic. Or is all of this semantics?
Been that way since the beginning and most people where defending it. Somebody talks bad about Israel they where blackballed in Hollywood well another goes on a rant about exterminating the Palestine’s and nothing. Glad people are finally waking up to it.
I could swear Ellison bought it to tank it
No wonder South Park is trying to speedrun their contract with Paramount
Really how? The contract is for episode numbers not season. And they seem to be releasing episodes slowly.
What happened for those not in the know?
I would think they’d love being there as a giant fuck you to them.
Here is the twist, they don’t have the actually anti-semitist people there because definition of this word completely warped thanks to Netanyahu and zionist lobbies. Bask in the glory of your stupidity.
I wonder what they think of all the UFC fighters about to be under their umbrella. Particularly guys like Bryce Mitchel, an ACTUAL antisemitic person.
And Mel Gibson is not on the list. That fact alone shows that this list has nothing to do with antisemitism.
And by “antisemitic”, they are still going by the hilariously outdated notion that maybe last held sway in the 90s, and that means “not sufficiently subservient to just whatever the fuck Israel wants to do”?
Um, it’s holds quite a lot of sway all the way to 2025, sadly. It’s not outdated because things are getting worse. In the 90s nobody would have agreed with that definition.
Boycott, divest, sanction. Paramount about to get the Disney treatment.
Oh man. Star Trek is the only tv show I watch. I guess it is time to sail the high seas.
Admirable tbh. Unfortunately Severance and The Bear still have me in their clutches haha
The seas can solve that problem in 15 minutes and then you have them forever.
I thought The Bear was Disney and Severance was Apple… At least that’s how they are in the UK.
Severance is Apple.
Good thing I’d rather blacklist paramount!
Blacklists are the hallmarks of fascism.
Sounds like a good list to be on.
Zionists owning Hollywood turns out to be reality.
Man, I sure didn’t expect to see “Mel Gibson Was Right All Along” on my 2025 Bingo card, yet here we are.
Israel has set back the push against actual bigotry and antisemitism by a century by literally leaning into every right-wing conspiracist talking point and wild notion about jewish conspiracies.
They’ve squandered any good will a sane person could have for Israel.
The monstrous acts against Palestine haven’t changed the way I view Jewish people as a whole, because I can separate religious beliefs from the actions of a nation state, but so,so many fucking idiots won’t.
Israel can go fuck itself, but I really feel for all the sane Jewish people outside (and inside, though I don’t think they’re super numerous) Israel that are going to be targeted by actual fucking antisemitism by nut jobs.
The only issue is the vast majority of that group, even the “sane” ones you empathize with, still support these policies. Only pacifist Orthodox jews oppose these genocidal policies amongst Jewish people. There is, unfortunately, not many cases to separate Zionism and its consequences from Jews.
Case in point.
It is morally correct to pirate Paramount content then complain about how shit it is anyway.
And to cancel your paramount+ subscription
Wait, people have that?
How else would the elderly watch their NCIS reruns?
I’ve never seen a company who’s advertising goes so far the wrong way. It makes me want to cancel it and I don’t even subscribe.
They don’t even have enough content to fill a billboard, let alone a whole streaming service.
My guess is Trekkie’s would
We have it for survivor
Thats what an arrs stack is for.
Please, expand on that for me. Not sure “aars stack” is enough for me to go on a research dive with. More than happy to do some sailing. I 100% has the infrastructure and technical ability.
Nevermind. Pretty sure this GitHub is doing the explaining I need: https://github.com/Ravencentric/awesome-arr
check their upcoming movies…
Do I have to pirate them? I rather carry on pretending there isn’t another paw patrol movie
There are paw patrol movies now?
People can still sit through a whole movie??
Not “people,” just toddlers.
Furthermore, Variety claims that Ellison’s goal is to turn Paramount into a MAGA-friendly environment, with content in the TV and movie divisions expected to be more “America-centric” and geared toward “the middle of the country.”
RIP any future Star Trek property.
RIP any future Star Trek property.
I’m sure they will find new ways to try to reboot it, completely stripped of any social commentary or social thought experiments, devoid of all optimism and inspiration for what our species can become. Probably like, another retelling of a plucky crew getting into space battles with generic, non-stereotyped-but-kinda alien terrorists who don’t have relatable reasons for being bad guys.
It won’t have heady concepts and wild ideas about how civilizations can develop and what humans can become, but that’s okay because it will have a roguish captain who likes to break the rules and a strict, by-the-book 1st officer that he has sexual tension with.
So it will be a cop show
Scientists predict that by the year 2120, the entire solar system will be nothing but cop shows.
😭
I remember having multiple discussions with a guy I knew who was adamant about various works of fiction, including the original Star Trek TV series, and how, in his view, if they have any kind of subtext to them, that it was not intentional and it’s entirely in the eye of the beholder, meaning, that people just make it up as they go.
These included, but were not limited to: OG Star Trek, Dune (book), LoTR (books), and even the NARNIA series. I mean, Narnia. I think I first read them around the age of 10 or 11, and the Christian parallels practically hit you between the eyes it is so obvious. Even to a kid…I mean, I’m pretty sure Lewis has gone on record with the clear intent on proselytizing his faith via that series.
I wish I was joking, and this guy read most everything when it came to old sci-fi stuff. If that is his take on reading all those classic sci-fi stuff, I was just gobsmacked as to what he was getting out of it.
I have the feeling that there might be more people like him, but I just don’t get it. Even things like WWE have the basic outline of the hero’s journey to them, FFS.
All of those series you mentioned have easily found interviews with their creators where they specifically say what subtext they were intending when they made them. You can disagree with the subtext, but was intentionally put there. That’s some willful ignorance.
He’s not wrong that the reader/viewer can take what they will from a work and translate it through their own lens… but come on, that is some neutron-star density if you can’t read the deliberate social commentary in Star Trek. Roddenberry himself has spoken about it.
It makes me pretty convinced that person, and those who share his views, are people who feel called-out or attacked on some level by whatever social issues are being highlighted, or feel insecure that they don’t “get it.”
There is a really wild segment of the human population who seem totally incapable of working out abstract ideas like ethics and values on their own and rely on systems like government or religion or unfortunately, content creators to guide them. This is a bigger problem than we realize and we take for granted that just because we all grew up watching the Ninja Turtles beat Shredder that we can all discern that “good is better than bad.” Not everyone gets that, and this is everyone’s problem.
Yeah, I know the guy could be an intentional contrarian just because he thought that was the way to show his intelligence. And I think he is on the spectrum. But I don’t think he was kidding or merely being contrarian about this. Probably why I talked about it to him so much. Sure, many things have multiple interpretations, and I often thought that some pretty basic English lit teachers thought there were “rules” to how to interpret literature and that there were “correct” answers to what something like Old Man and the Sea “means”. I can understand rejecting that.
But rejecting that even things as blatant as Narnia and Star Trek are not intentionally conveying a message? Mind-blowing. I don’t even understand why you’d be all that interested in fiction of any kind at that point.
And yeah, as you point out, this kind of obvious intelligence in one way, but a glaring of lack of intelligence in others is highly problematic in the moral sense.
I was going to suggest that he might be on the spectrum, as it’s pretty stereotyped that autistic spectrum disorder can make it hard for some people to pick up subtext, nuance, overtones and other forms of communication that aren’t direct. (I was diagnosed recently as an adult but I’ve never had problems dismantling all the layers of media or reading emotions so it’s probably a different part of the spectrum.)
But this is also exactly why so many people on the spectrum identify with science fiction and fantasy, because in many of these franchises the social narrative or analogy isn’t exactly subtle.
And it opens up so many questions - like, what DOES communicate social messages and life lessons? What kinds of media DO convey ideas about society? Only documentaries about politics? What about non-fiction movies? What about fiction stories and movies that aren’t sci-fi or fantasy? Does he even watch stories about human emotion or abstract works of fiction that are STRICTLY social commentary? I would immediately start asking him so many questions LOL.
Honestly though, I would take this. I would prefer someone who says openly that they’re disconnected from social narratives than the people who pretend that they understand ethics and values communicated to them, but are actually just horrible sociopaths trying to act human.
Narnia and Dune are so up-front about their messages that after a couple books it stops being subtext and just becomes text, so they’re technically correct there.
Well, Narnia hits one like a 2x4 square between the eyes. 🤣
I remember reading the first Dune book during the first invasion of Iraq and the parallels between the two were very interesting I have to say. Not sure how much the author meant, but it was sure weird…
I mean the Author meant nothing to parallel a war that happened 25 ish years after the book was released. Dune 1965 first Iraq war 1990. Any similarities are all on you.
“OMG, when did Star Trek get so political?!”
Um… 1966.
So hilarious and so apt… I will absolutely laugh at the idea of, well what’s effectively been a socialist utopia for the vast majority of contexts in it, and the show that broke the interracial kiss barrier. (on top of inter species/galaxy ones… but obviously far more shocking at the time that a white guy kissed a black woman, than a white guy sleeping with a bunch of green aliens.
Political in the non-conservative sense, mind you.
About the only time they notice “activism”, too.
They can have activism like Project 2025 or the decades-long effort to overturn Roe, and none of that counts as “activism”.
America-centric?
Mother fucker it’s already America-centric, just look at the space Christian angels episodes of discovery to see how American it is.
Oh well, more Americans shooting themselves in the foot for foreign media to step in and replace them. Guess this is the century of China if America is giving up.
Wasn’t that supposed to be her mom?
The first Red Angel was Burnham’s mom. The second Red Angel was Burnham, because of-fucking-course it was.
Good luck with South Park and painting Matt Stone as Anti-Semitic. Fucking pieces of shit.
Zionists call Jewish people antisemitic all the time, so yeah they will have great luck with that.
I’m willing to bet that a significant portion of that list is Jewish.
why do you say that
I reckon we could get 4 seasons into a Terran Empire based series before the MAGAs figure out they’re being made fun of.
You could get away with a Starship Troopers Star Trek Terran Empire series literally forever, The Colbert Report ran 11 seasons and people still think it existed to balance out the liberal bias of The Daily Show.
Star Trek: Ferenginar will probably be on the list to be made and the pilot episode will be called Make Fereginar Great Again.
MAGA would see the Ferengi aversion to war, xenophobia, and genocide as “too woke”.
The Ferengi actually know how to run a functioning economy.
They would like the idea of permanently unclothed women though. Those on the younger side especially.
“Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people…will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon.”
Followed by Star Trek: Lobes
Star Trek: The Final Front Ear
My first thought when reading that as well.
There’s already an Angel Studios. We don’t need another one.
