I don’t trust reviews at all at this point, from any service like those mentioned.
I will say that it’s diabolical that trust pilot closed the reviews. Meaning people can’t express there disappointment with the app, and that people might still trust it.
Trustpilot tries to weed out fake reviews. A huge influx of reviews all at once looks like fake reviews. And, to be fair, I imagine a chunk of those reviews are “fake” in that the reviewers never used the app. It’s easier for Trustpilot to cut off new reviews for the time being than to deal with evaluating all these new reviews.
I don’t think they would know about the issue until the news broke. The average user would assume it is doing what it said, and the content creators were non the wiser either.
Sure, but I hope you can see the potential for knee-jerk reactions polluting otherwise relevant reviews, no?
Given that the reviews are already low, I’m guessing a lot of users noticed that the coupons weren’t the best available before the news broke. That’s exactly what I would expect, and having a bunch of people regurgitating things like “Honey are hucksters screwing content creators” doesn’t say much about the quality of the service to end-users and is simply a reaction to the news without any further research (how can the average user validate those claims?).
Aggregate scores on all sites have become untrustworthy, they’re just poor first indicators now, but reading user reviews is still very much worth it imo. It just takes way longer to figure out whether a product is good/bad than it did 10 years ago. Once ai llm catch up with writing credible texts, then that method will be toast as well and then we’ll be really screwed when choosing a product.
And I kinda understand why they’re blocking new reviews. Trustpilot doesn’t have a way to verify if the reviewers are actual product users, so their system is very vulnerable to review bombing. It’s a catch 22 for them: damned if they suppress review bombs and damned if they don’t.
Trustpilot’s method could be better (Fe: they could allow reviewbombs to happen and show 2 scores, with and without), but what Google is doing is probably the worst possible way to go about it: On the chrome webstore page there is no indication whatsoever that anything is amiss. Atleast Trustpilot tells visitors to go check the news.
I actually can’t believe that I’ve been defending Trustpilot, they’ve always had a repuation of selectively removing reviews, but well, Google is now worse than them.
It just takes way longer to figure out whether a product is good/bad than it did 10 years ago
Exactly.
On Amazon, I need to go at least a couple pages in to get past the “curated” comments or whatever to see legitimate reviews. I try to sample a dozen or so starting from at least a couple pages in to see what the trends are (and no, I don’t trust the AI crap Amazon shows), and I’ll read through some 2-star reviews as well (1-star reviews seem to mostly be complaints about shipping or defective products, which may not be relevant).
ai llm catch up
We’ll just have to go back to how we used to do things: word of mouth. In the modern age, social media can absolutely help, provided you trust the author. I have some YouTube channels I trust, some websites that haven’t yet been overtaken by AI nonsense, etc. And the last option we have is returning bad products, and most companies seem to have automated returns to the point where you don’t really need a good reason to return something, it’s generally cheaper for them to accept the return than to piss off their customers.
Google is know for removing reviewed coming from bomb-reviewing like when a brand gets a sudden burst of bad publicity, but in extensions, Google play, Google maps etc.
Honestly I have stopped using the play store for my pixel. But it’s also a bigger trend of no longer allowing apps on my phone other than essentials. Fuck these leaches.
I understand why, but I in no way agree or think it’s good or acceptable. They’re mainly an ad company, so giving users the option to filter out apps with things they earn money from doesn’t make sense for them.
It’s shitty, but logical.
There are third-party apps for the playstore, maybe one or several might have that option? Only one I know the name of just from memory is Aurora, check it out and see if it has those options.
Trustpilot doesn’t have a way to verify if the reviewers are actual product users, so their system is very vulnerable to review bombing. Allowing review bombing can also harm their credibility. It’s a catch 22 for them: damned if they suppress review bombs and damned if they don’t.
Trustpilot’s method and/or communication could probably be better, but what Google is doing is the worst possible way to go about it: On the chrome webstore page there is no indication whatsoever that anything is amiss, Google is just silently removing all recent negative reviews. Atleast Trustpilot tells visitors that they’re temporarily not accepting reviews and that it’s because of recent news.
Honey in the chrome webstore: 4.7 stars. With no clear way to see written reviews, just the aggregated stars are visible.
Honey in the firefox add-ons store: 3.2 stars.
Honey in Trustpilot: 2.7 stars. Closed for new reviews since 4 days, but old reviews and history are still accessible.
Google manages to do worse than trustpilot. Google is once again confirming what a useless company they’ve become.
I don’t trust reviews at all at this point, from any service like those mentioned.
I will say that it’s diabolical that trust pilot closed the reviews. Meaning people can’t express there disappointment with the app, and that people might still trust it.
Trustpilot tries to weed out fake reviews. A huge influx of reviews all at once looks like fake reviews. And, to be fair, I imagine a chunk of those reviews are “fake” in that the reviewers never used the app. It’s easier for Trustpilot to cut off new reviews for the time being than to deal with evaluating all these new reviews.
Wouldn’t you expect a large influx of negative reviews when news breaks of this story?
As I said I don’t trust Trust Pilot, but this really doesn’t help their cause.
Sure, and I’d expect a lot of those to be from users who don’t use Honey, but are outraged by the news.
If they were going to leave a legitimate negative review, they would have done so before the news broke.
I don’t think they would know about the issue until the news broke. The average user would assume it is doing what it said, and the content creators were non the wiser either.
Sure, but I hope you can see the potential for knee-jerk reactions polluting otherwise relevant reviews, no?
Given that the reviews are already low, I’m guessing a lot of users noticed that the coupons weren’t the best available before the news broke. That’s exactly what I would expect, and having a bunch of people regurgitating things like “Honey are hucksters screwing content creators” doesn’t say much about the quality of the service to end-users and is simply a reaction to the news without any further research (how can the average user validate those claims?).
Oh I can absolutely see that. I guess my issue is that the whole review ecosystem is flawed I guess.
As you (or someone else) said it’s a no win for TrustPilot. Either they stop review bombs or they allow them and people will be mad either way.
Now that AI can write reasonably good-sounding copy, reviews are increasingly unreliable.
Aggregate scores on all sites have become untrustworthy, they’re just poor first indicators now, but reading user reviews is still very much worth it imo. It just takes way longer to figure out whether a product is good/bad than it did 10 years ago. Once ai llm catch up with writing credible texts, then that method will be toast as well and then we’ll be really screwed when choosing a product.
And I kinda understand why they’re blocking new reviews. Trustpilot doesn’t have a way to verify if the reviewers are actual product users, so their system is very vulnerable to review bombing. It’s a catch 22 for them: damned if they suppress review bombs and damned if they don’t.
Trustpilot’s method could be better (Fe: they could allow reviewbombs to happen and show 2 scores, with and without), but what Google is doing is probably the worst possible way to go about it: On the chrome webstore page there is no indication whatsoever that anything is amiss. Atleast Trustpilot tells visitors to go check the news.
I actually can’t believe that I’ve been defending Trustpilot, they’ve always had a repuation of selectively removing reviews, but well, Google is now worse than them.
Exactly.
On Amazon, I need to go at least a couple pages in to get past the “curated” comments or whatever to see legitimate reviews. I try to sample a dozen or so starting from at least a couple pages in to see what the trends are (and no, I don’t trust the AI crap Amazon shows), and I’ll read through some 2-star reviews as well (1-star reviews seem to mostly be complaints about shipping or defective products, which may not be relevant).
We’ll just have to go back to how we used to do things: word of mouth. In the modern age, social media can absolutely help, provided you trust the author. I have some YouTube channels I trust, some websites that haven’t yet been overtaken by AI nonsense, etc. And the last option we have is returning bad products, and most companies seem to have automated returns to the point where you don’t really need a good reason to return something, it’s generally cheaper for them to accept the return than to piss off their customers.
We’re there. Current-gen stuff is good enough you’d have no idea. Kind of a catch-22, once it’s that good, there’s no way to tell it’s that :)
Google is know for removing reviewed coming from bomb-reviewing like when a brand gets a sudden burst of bad publicity, but in extensions, Google play, Google maps etc.
Still no option to filter for no ads and no in-app payments in their app store.
Honestly I have stopped using the play store for my pixel. But it’s also a bigger trend of no longer allowing apps on my phone other than essentials. Fuck these leaches.
I understand why, but I in no way agree or think it’s good or acceptable. They’re mainly an ad company, so giving users the option to filter out apps with things they earn money from doesn’t make sense for them. It’s shitty, but logical.
There are third-party apps for the playstore, maybe one or several might have that option? Only one I know the name of just from memory is Aurora, check it out and see if it has those options.
https://aurorastore.org/
>trustpilot
>closed for reviews
how is that allowed? just closing reviews in times of enshitification and opening them in times of a good product??
Trustpilot doesn’t have a way to verify if the reviewers are actual product users, so their system is very vulnerable to review bombing. Allowing review bombing can also harm their credibility. It’s a catch 22 for them: damned if they suppress review bombs and damned if they don’t.
Trustpilot’s method and/or communication could probably be better, but what Google is doing is the worst possible way to go about it: On the chrome webstore page there is no indication whatsoever that anything is amiss, Google is just silently removing all recent negative reviews. Atleast Trustpilot tells visitors that they’re temporarily not accepting reviews and that it’s because of recent news.