• leadore@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I don’t know what the arguments against this idea would be, but seems to me like the first thing Denmark needs to do, probably with the help of some allies, is expel the US from Greenland, take over the US military base there and strongly fortify it. Then the US can’t use it for the invasion. I’m sure their plans heavily depend on having and using that base. Don’t say anything beforehand, just show up with enough force that the existing US contingent there can’t win if they fight back, present the eviction notice, and get them moving out before US can send reinforcements.

  • Simulation@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Appeasing to a bully never works. Until you evict the US base out of Greenland, you are not in crisis mode. Europeans are tired of inaction.

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    2 months ago

    As a Dane I am grateful that so many countries have expressed support for Greenland and Denmark in this situation.

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      2 months ago

      Saying and acting are unfortunately a world apart. Let’s hope that expression manifests into something tangible if necessary. I feel like I’m living through my history lessons at the moment and I don’t like what happened next.

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        2 months ago

        I think EU has demonstrated that we can act in concord when needed. We can’t beat USA militarily, but we can make it very expensive for USA if they invade Europe. Europe is already working on independence from USA both economically and militarily, if USA invades a European country, I guess we have no other option than to work with China instead of USA.

        I have no idea how Trump see it as a good idea to get former allies to turn against USA. It is already happening to some degree, the alliance is very uneasy now, in a way that has never before been the case between Europe and USA after WW2, and the exact same with Canada and USA.
        USA has no real allies left, only allies of convenience. And at some point USA will learn the difference. That point will probably be pretty instant if USA invades Greenland.

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      2 months ago

      As a Spaniard I will tell you one thing, the borders of the EU are my borders, a violation of them is an attack on my country, from that moment on I would be at war without a doubt. But Greenland is not EU, it would be like Ukraine, send weapons, ok, send money, ok, diplomatic aid, ok; direct involvement in the war, send soldiers or something, no thanks

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        2 months ago

        Hey there, how would you feel about the Canary Islands being annexed? Is that EU enough for you?

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          Unlike Greenland, the Canary Islands are 100% territory of the European Union, and it is not about simple reciprocity. If that were the case, Malta, I don’t think it would contribute much, and between brothers, there is no need to expect to receive the same treatment. The question is whether the Greenlanders see me as a brother, with whom they share a vision of the world or a shared common project, their political decisions in recent decades imply that they do not.

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    2 months ago

    If the US takes Greenland, I fear that NATO will be effectively dissolved. Denmark probably invokes Article 5… does anyone come to their aid against the US? Seems unlikely. If they do, let’s be real here, the US will just acquire new colonies. Either way, NATO means next to nothing; total Russian victory. Russia gets to sabotage/colonize western and then eastern Europe, and China gets Taiwan (if they feel like calling the US’s bluff) and whatever else they want. The only truly sovereign countries left will be the ones with a hefty nuclear arsenal.

      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
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        2 months ago

        I don’t think so. Taking over Greenland will look a bit like changing the name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America. US will say they now control Greenland, Denmark will say they don’t. There will be no invasion because US already has a military base there. Denmark will not attack it because it would be foolish and pointless. US will probably say that Greenland residents can get US passports and establish some parallel administration. And then, at some point, when they want prove they actually own Greenland US will provoke some conflict. Maybe they will take control of the international airport or something. Denmark will back down and everyone will accept it’s US territory while opposing it officially.

        With Canada this will not work. They would have to actually invade it and I don’t think they are there yet. Bombing of Mexico will happen first.