They went to a judge and got a warrant to investigate the scene - a public area, that’s already unusual - and the brownshirts refused.
The level of bullshit went up a lot more just then.
What do you mean “refused”? Any time they have a warrant for a civilian, you don’t get to fucking refuse.
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Why are local cops surrendering the 10th amendment to a handful of feds? They have 10x that in cops, right there, overwhelm them to stand up for your state.
This is why no one likes these dems except for the republicans that puah them around.
If you want a real answer instead of knee jerk hatred towards cops:
Cops are local police, and have local authority. They do not have jurisdiction or authority over federal agencies.
If they moved on ICE, that would literally start a Civil War. As law would become the word of local authority versus federal authority in determining who has any.
The officers in Minnesota are not defending ICE. They’re trying their best to not be the ones that start the Civil War ICE is trying to.
Because ICE has federal authority, anything local authority does will create a conflict that ICE and Trump will use to justify martial law. They want to use our military to invade swing states, so the Police in Minnesota are trying to prevent that through not openinly engaging with ICE agent provocateurs.
Because ICE has federal authority, anything local authority does will create a conflict that ICE and Trump will use to justify martial law.
In other words, the states shouldn’t exercise their own authority or else the feds will keep escalating the things they’re already doing? At this point I don’t see any reason to believe that Trump won’t declare martial law regardless of what Minnesota does. The question isn’t whether or not he will escalate, it’s whether or not there will be resistance.
Police of a state have jurisdiction about the unlawful murder of their own citizens. The 10th amendment specifies powers not explicitly given to the feds belong to the state. The feds control interstate commerce, foreign relations, that’s about it. They have ursurped a lot of authority over the centuries, but claiming they can execute people contrary to both federal and state law and hold themselves harmless is a new one.
You might want to associate me with cop haters making that point, because you can’t argue the actual point. Local authority includes people executed locally contrary to law.
By not charging, and laying down, they guarenteed impunity, not a thing for federal agents to think twice about. They don’t have to worry about a state grabbing them, shipping them back. Not unless they cross the federal leadership.
Arguments that federals can execute citizens under false pretense contrary to law with impunity would never be accepted by red states, yet here you are.
I agree with everything you said. HOWEVER.
No police officer wants to be the one that gets the 10th Amendment challenged in court. These rules you described only exist UNTIL they are challenged.
Do you want them to be challenged given the current SCOTUS?
I don’t. As it would be a literal constitutional crisis. One that our currupt SCOTUS would forever change the norms of given the opportunity. State police are making sure they aren’t the ones providing said opportunity.
Because once SCOTUS corrupts the constitution, we will be actively in a civil war between their interpretation of the constitution, and what was before.
I’m aware of what the rules are. I’m also aware of how most of them have changed through Trumps court and likely will continue to given any and all opportunity.
It’s wise to not give them any.
You think cops are Dems?
The police are fascist generally. They are supervised ostensibly by democratic leaders, sheriffs that are elected excluded. City cops are overseen my mayors and city councils usually, with the power to replace them at will, in theory. In practice they are dirty and the cops could take them down, and were chosen to be weak and not upset entrenched interests, which sucks for us now with Republicans that have learned to play high stakes chicken with them and win every single time.
Because all cops are bastards.
Bad leadership. Blue cities have fascist police, do not police them, are dirty and vulnerable to those cops if they do check them. But more than anything they are chosen to be weak, to not challenge entrenched interests.
Same with biden, hillary, kamala, et al. They win as rejection of the other party on the sheep that trust the ivy league suits on tv to lead them. Maybe 10 pc of the population. But they vote in primaries and are led by those ivy leaguers that prevent any real leaders challenging them.
People like mamdami, in every district. Including some white dudes, why are there no white left leaders contesting? They are suppressed by the controlled opposition and republicans and both of their donor bases. Killed in the cradle.
Go back to ml with your shit ruspublican propaganda. Your whole profile is exclusively RT talking points.
I have no idea what you are talking about but I recognize your username as a troll. Figures you are still using ad hominems to further your, whatever you do on here. But your baseless accusation makes me wonder if you aren’t the alt account of hexrat or whatever you call yourselves. Some kind of mammal. Every accusation is a confession with people that use slander to obscure the issues.
This is a shill/troll account give it the respect it deserves. Block it and never care what it has to say.
Because how could anyone think Murder charges should have been filed against the feds after the 1st, and now after the 2nd Execution?
I would say tis your account that is trolling. Anyone that listens to you, good riddance.
Ok, and red cities and towns have fascist police that are more open about it and keep white hoods at home for after hours, so what’s your point? Acab?
You’re sick of the establishment in the Democratic party and want real leftists in charge, so that people aren’t voting for the lesser of two evils and can actually vote for a real progressive party?
More excusing bad leadership, as if our leaders aren’t chosen to be weak. I am continually surprised how many people still trust the establishment democrats even after everything. Even after no murder charges for a second cold blooded murder in violation of state law, under false pretense.
Your left right directionalism is way off the mark. We aren’t talking about left or right issues here, we are talking about protecting citizens, about affording the shield of law to citizens with the feds purposefully violating it, fully intent on running concentration camps with undesirables, and now certain they can execute protesters, lie and slander them to justify it, target their friends and associates, and do it again, and again, and again.
It’s hopeless with you guys out here shouting down calls for leadership, on top of this Controlled Opposition, supported by the rich, by right wing groups that want beatable opponents, and by Sheep that trust the ones that led them into the abyss.
Bet you voted for a child fucker twice.
Hector is a Russian tankie propaganda bot from the ml instance. He only blames Democrats for what republicans do. He is literally a Russian troll
That’s fine, I’m enjoying taking up his time, and reminding everyone I can that they support child fucking if they support Trump. It’s funny.
You are the troll, perhaps an alt account for a hexbear. A troll saddling us with unwinnable candidates to say the least.
30% approval for 4 years anointed without a contest running as the status quo, and I’m the asshole for wanting new people for the next election?
The truth is, if anyone is working for the right wing here, it is you, as they interfere to saddle us with candidates that can’t win.
Given the 2024 election, no reasonable person could think that was a well run campaign, and to keep the same people in power to do it again, for the 3rd time in a row, is a recipe for permanent fascist dictatorship.
You voted for a Russian asset, and don’t seem to have any concept of how the US federal government functions, how the two party first past the post system functions, and how a vote for anything but the Democratic candidate is in fact a vote for the republicans. Refusing to acknowledge that simple reality confirms you’re here in bad faith.
You are slandering me, we never talked about whom we voted for. Your assumption of that gives lie to your sincerity as well.
I think you are an alternate account for a troll on hexbear. Pretty sure of it, explains your only a few comments, that has popped up both times I got into it with hexbear trolls. Admit it, you are trolling with an alt account, because everyone blocked your instance for just this type of behavior.
You are the one helping them by ensuring we get candidates in opposition that can’t win. You are a Generally Important Maga Player, or [redacted] for short.
Okay pedo lover.
Every accusation is a confession for Generally Important Maga Players such as yourself!
It’s sad you could even think you are helping, just goes to show you the path to hell is paved with fucking morons.
Whatever you say. Try not to fuck any kids on your way out of here.
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Not just circulated. DHS posted the photo on their Twitter in a post claiming the victim was a violent assailant and claiming the weapon in the picture was theirs.
Apparently that is showing up on the reddit thread because someone posted it there after these events. Unless you can link the specific picture on reddit that is older.
But in any case the video shows ICE agents disarmed the man (by taking the weapon from his waistband) before murdering him, so we do know that they have the gun.
It shows it is older by the date on the 2nd pic … 5 days ago.
That’s the age of the thread, the OP was posted 5 days ago. It doesn’t mean reddit didn’t give Google a picture that was posted later in the thread when Google went looking for the photo. It seems to be a weekly thread (which would be pinned) so it seems likely that people would continue commenting days after its posting.
Someone posts a weekly mega thread that stays up a week, with comments made throughout the week. -> Someone posts this photo after the ICE fucks murder the guy they disarmed in said mega thread -> You ask Google to look for the photo online -> It shows you the mega thread posted 5 days ago, because it now contains the image
Not that I don’t think ICE isn’t that incompetent and willing to lie. But I’d need to see a link to the actual photo on reddit as proof that it’s older.
You’re explaining reality. I understand it’s important to not trust ICE but people being incompetent and not understanding what a date is actually referring to is just dumb.
Is it just me or doesn’t it seem like there’s something wrong with that gun? Why is the barrel all bent?
That’s happens when the slide is pushed back. Totally normal
Where is the arrest for obstruction?
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-minnesota-civil-war
It’s already a civil war, the only thing now is to see who the belligerents are.
And people want to have the balls to tell me I’m in the moral wrong for saying we should be fucking blasting on sight by now.
I know it’ll kick off some terrible awful shit; but it’s either rip the bandaid off now and get it started on our terms, or wait until there are far fewer of us because we just keep letting them execute us without cause or consequence.
I’d wager money you’re not out there doing any shooting yourself.
It’s one thing to write some words on Lemmy, it’s another to grab a gun and put your life on the line. It’s even another step to go and actually take someone’s life. I don’t think it’s so easy to kill people.
By all means though, you’re in America - if you have the money arm up and go shoot some ICE agents. See what happens, maybe it’ll help maybe it won’t but either way you’ll be doing what you say people should be doing.
Sabotage is also an option, and can be nasty in winter. Make it untenable for them to stay. Keep them exposed to weather for long enough and they’ll start quitting. Break windows, break heaters, spray water on everything, etc.
Small broken pieces of porcelain are very effective at breaking car window glass when thrown.
Spark plug insulators, anything hardened ceramic, and some types of volcanic gravel all work. Anything harder than glass that comes to a sharp point.
A rubber band and two fingers makes a very effective slingshot that can be acquired almost anywhere.
You aren’t causing any damage with that. Use a few condoms for the slingshot rubber and just whittle a Y shape out of some wood to tie it to. That will get a ball bearing through a 2x4 with a good arm.
A broken window in -6 F temp is more than enough to put a vehicle out of comission
This is the way.
Unorganized and random violence will just justify the insurrection act and martial law.
In minecraft servers what you want to do is target high profile individuals, that has historically been the best way.
You still need to disrupt operations on the ground. Logistical disruption does a lot more damage at the lowest level here. If they can’t get goons together they pose significantly less threat in the first place.
Motor oil balloons on windshields, broken windows, flat tires, tailpipe obstructions, anything to slow down movement and coordination.
I mean for this to be effective you need to get sympathizers within an organization. This means applying for ICE jobs and wrecking it from within. Or places they outsource work to.
Do they use a local shell station that’s hiring? Whoops a customer spilled soda on the credit card machine and the pump is tampered with to say 1 gallon is 2. That will be 200 dollars cash.
Yes absolutely.
I would include influencers not directly involved but knowingly lying to betray our bill of rights. For all legal means of defending the republic and her people such as remains.
They should have all been lynched in the protest yesterday
Dang! Oh WELL we TRIED!
-Tim Walz and other Democrats!
