Is there any downside to leaving something seeding indefinitely? Typically I just leave all my torrents seeding whenever I’m done 24/7 (whenever the VPN is on) but is there any detrimental issues to seeding too much?
It doesn’t bother me I was just curious if there was ever a such thing as too much seeding since I have like 20+ things seeding and maybe one thing downloading.
Speed isn’t an issue since I have gigabit internet.
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No with a VPN you are good. Sharing is caring.
I seed content I get as much as I can to I2P. No data caps here so not really any downside. You do have to limit stuff a bit to not overwhelm your connection at some point
I have around 400 items seeding 24/7. No problems at all, except that I am sending from my media server via my desktop,so I need to set speed limits in my torrent client to keep from saturating the wifi connection. (Slowly working to get things migrated over…)
Not really, as long as your VPN setup is solid (assuming you need it to avoid letters) and you don’t mind the bandwidth usage. I have some ratios in the 500s
I have some ratios in the 500s
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This guy Seeds
There’s wear and tear on your drives and your bandwidth usage, but if you meant from the tracker’s perspective - none, in fact the more the better
Is the wear and tear a considerable amount over time? Or just something to consider as it does some compared to not seeding 24/7?
Drive failures have almost nothing to do with access if they are mechanical. Most failures are from bearing or solder interconnect failures over time.
Also, most seeding is in smaller chunks that are read and cached if popular… Meaning less drive hits than 1-1 read vs upload.
You will almost always have drives fail from other aspects like heat or power or old age before wear from seeding would ever be enough to matter.
I have drives in the excess of 10+ years, with several seeds that have been active for many years of those, that are still running just fine.
Not really, at least not because of the data access. Drives mainly die because of their age.
SSDs will basically not degrade by reading them, they only degrade when you write to them.
HDDs can get degraded because of data access, but most HDD deaths are caused by bearing failures or head crashes, which are more of a matter of power-on hours.What all of this means is that if you already kept your device on 24/7, your drives aren’t gonna degrade noticeably faster by having your torrent client accessing them all the time.
No issues at all! Obviously speed caps will be useful since eventually you’ll have enough torrents that even gigabit will be saturated, but even a low speed can mean a lot over a long time.
Lots of permaseeders out there, you can be one too :)
There’s no real downside as long as your ISP doesn’t limit your bandwidth.
If your router is the one that your ISP provided, torrenting can affect your internet connection stability by having too many connections active, because most of the time that hardware is trash (at least from my experience).
Most (all?) torrent clients support limiting the number of active connections. This should prevent your router from being overloaded.
In my experience 500 shouldn’t be a problem. On that note, limiting upload bandwidth to something less than the available upload bandwidth is important too.
250 active connections is the limit with my ISP provided router. You can get beyond that, but it causes a lot of instability, and eventually, the network fails and the router reboots.
On another note, I don’t limit my bandwidth at all and I’ve managed to get uploads/downloads of up to 142% the speed which I should get.
250 active connections is the limit with my ISP provided router
So buy your own.
250 connections really is not much. I ran a matrix server for a while and joining a few large rooms (1k+ servers) made the connections reach a few thousand – which made the router slow down/unstable/reboot.
I’ve noticed the same for my upload bandwitdh, with it being 170%-200% of its advertised maximum speed. Sadly the same can’t be said about the download bandwidth. Luckily fiber will be available in a few months.
Hm, interesting. I didn’t bother with a personal router for the longest time (aside from an old Linksys I got because it works with ExpressVPN) because I have fibre optic but I might go out and look for one now.
One related thing to watch out for is the state table size - one of my old cheap routers back in the day showed how full it was and it was hitting 100% a lot and seemed to grind the network to a halt when it did (I was in a house of 5 young people with lots of devices and multiple people torrenting behind a cheapo Netgear running ddwrt). That’s what lead me to switch to high end or x86 based routers. Being able to see the state table stats really helps to know how likely it is to be a problem, it’s so big when using opnsense on an x86 box that I don’t think it ever goes above 1% now.
This is especially useful for Books. Small torrents are so hard to find. I perma seed books/audiobooks and copy to my slskd directory because they’re so hard.
Is there an easy way to permaseed in qBittorent?
Permaseed is the default. To disable perma-seed would be to set an upload limit, like a time amount or a ratio.
I run a ratio of 2:1 for most stuff
I have this book. It’s a few Kb in size and I have already seed Gb of it. It has an insane ratio. I think I will never delete that torrent.
Doing the lords work.
There’s no such thing as too much seeding.
Well, maybe the 85tb of Ubuntu 24.04 I’ve done is too much, but I mean, whatever.
(I’ve got basically everything I’ve downloaded in the last 7 years seeding, some 6000 torrents. qBittorrent isn’t the most happy with this, but it’s still working, if using a shit-ton of RAM at this point.)
You’re a hero.
I’m seeding around 1600 things. I tried to seed a news paper I need, around 5k items and it crashed qbit.
does your ISP cap your data like 1TB per month? If you reach the 1TB, your speed will slow down.
Bless you.
I deliberately leave stuff that’s been a bastard to get seeding as long as physically possible. We’ve all felt the pain. Don’t spread it.
Exactly. There’s little point in keep seeding popular torrents on public trackers (it’s a different story for private trackers though).
But if you have a rare torrent that has been difficult to complete, please please keep seeding it for as much as possible!
In the case of Transmission, I’ve noticed that depending on server resources, there’s an upper limit to how many seeds you can run and still get reasonable downloads. No idea why, but if you seed like 100-ish items, you basically never get decent downloads, and it’s not like the upload speeds are great either, so it’s not bandwidth.
I think it’s related to the number of open connections. If you have 100+ torrents you’re going to have a lot of open connections to leeches, so your new downloads will have to wait for slots to open.
You could fix it by setting all of your seeding torrents as low priority, so your new normal-priority downloads will start.
Question for the group:
Using Unraid can I pull from sonarr and then add to Jellyfin (watch it) and also seed? That would be amazing. Usually I have my deluge stop seeding so I can move the file to my data folder and not have duplicate files
I use qbittorrent so maybe this is why, but when my downloads finish theyre moved to my movies/tv folder but since qbittorrent handles that, it keeps seeding the files afterwards.
I download to a 1TB USB drive. ARR’s then copy the completed files to the NAS proper. When the USB fills I clear up ~100GB of the oldest files. Then the cycle continues.
On mobile but look up TRASH guides. That’s what I used in my setup and I’m able to watch stuff almost as soon as it downloads and I still let it seed for awhile after. Also using Unraid, Arr apps, and Jellyfin.
I don’t know if it’s good or not but I just created a library in Jellyfin pointing to my Media folder that I download torrents to. It’s probably not the same as what you’re doing since it’s my regular desktop but it works for me.
My next goal is to get an actual home server so I can let my parents view my jellyfin too.
