• excursion22@piefed.ca
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    7 hours ago

    Read more than the headline, and social media posts arent news.

    Yes, Charlie Kirk’s assassination sparked a conversation about the importance of free speech and disavowing political violence in parliament. The standing ovation was not for Charlie, but for the outcome of that speech.

    Still, not very tactful and the speech could’ve definitely been written better to be clear that the call is for defence of free speech and denouncing political violence, rather than support of Kirk.

    Video link.

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    jesus fucking christ, they honoured a nazi-supporting american second tier political figure in parliament? not appropriate

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    The last time they gave a Nazi a standing ovation, Chrystia Freeland aggressively pushed back against any calls to investigate how many Nazis Canada had harbored, and worked to thoroughly bury the story. And this wasn’t even her first Nazi scandal.

    If the government tries to stop people from investigating Nazis (including your “left” party), it’s infested with Nazis.

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      19 hours ago

      That’s not true. These types of investigations basically hand over tons of political power to your opponent. Anything discovered can be implied to be the government’s fault, and if little is found then it’s the government wasting money.

      We don’t have the required refinement in the media and the political engagement of the average citizen to effectively use these kinds of investigations.

      Leveraging this type of investigation is part of how Stephen Harper best Paul Martin.

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        I don’t give a damn if an investigation of government support of Nazis becomes a political setback for liberals.

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          It’s not whether it becomes a setback for liberals, it’s how much it bolsters neofascist elements in the conservative party.

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    Was it everyone? Do we have any information on whether there were any sensible people refusing to take part in this?

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    As a Canadian…yeah this doesn’t surprise me. I mean the House of Commons is just one big dog and pony show. nothing gets done during these sessions, it’s just political theatre to get sound bites on the CBC.

    I honestly don’t know any Canadian that actually watches these. It’s just a massive circle jerk only for the politicians sitting in that room.

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      I don’t know any Canadian who watches criminal trials, either, but that’s not an argument that they don’t get things done. I’ve only watched one inquest in my entire life. I’ve watched dozens of baseball games (though not in the last 30 years). Doesn’t mean anything.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    The moment poilievre made his return the racism immediately ramped up. He starated with the immigration right away, the next week we had racists in Toronto protesting against “immigration” we know they mean non white people since the entire crowd was whiter than a January morning.

    And Alberta is now putting citizenship status on drivers licenses to make it easier for their hick cops to profile people.

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    People will later say they didn’t know what was happening. They didn’t know any better. No, they were only minding their own business.

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    I recommend taking this opportunity for thoroughly internalizing the knowledge that the vast and overwhelming majority of people in government, no matter what color they wear, truly do not care about you in the slightest. Go listen to some George Carlin, he can explain.

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    I think to myself that Alberta is a highly misunderstood place, that the people here are more relatable and complex than the stereotypes that I hear come so often from people in nearly every other province.

    …and then each time I think that we can beat the stereotype, some random politician whose name I’ve never heard before shows up out of the woodworks to make a comment nobody asked for on an issue that doesn’t affect us.

    Shit like this pains me man

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      Alberta is so fucking weird man. Conservative as hell, but also has the most secure NDP federal seat in all of Canada (Edmonton-Strathcona) since like 2008. The rural-urban divide in Western Canada is honestly crazy when you get down to the nitty gritty of it.

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        Labour politics are not incompatible with conservatism! Wab Kinew is an Indigenous person leading the province probably most racist against First Peoples, and he’s the most popular Premier in Canada. If people would get over the propaganda it doesn’t take long to start remembering why the NDP has been one of the most effective and beneficial political forces of the last 100 years, all despite never forming a federal government.

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        Strathcona is incredible. That section of Whyte Ave is so active, and it’s a very artsy part of the city because festivals like The Fringe take part there. I used to go there regularly growing up since my grandmother wasn’t far off around Bonnie Doon.

        But it wouldn’t have been possible without the funding for the arts that happened under Peter Lougheed’s Progressive Conservatives. It’s also wild to me how many areas are NDP provincially, and then Conservative federally.

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    It’s just interesting because they don’t honor the three children killed in the school shooting the same day. So clearly they’re not speaking out against gun violence or uttering victims of gun violence. Otherwise they’d honor them too. So I can only conclude by doing this they are explicitly endorsing Charlie Kirk’s rhetoric. Everyone that stood up and clapped agrees with Charlie Kirk 100%. That’s the only conclusion

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      I don’t think this information is accurate. As far as I can tell, two children were shot (wounded) and the shooter committed suicide.

      Still a way, way larger tragedy than a racist dying, though.