If he does something other than sabre rattle in Greenland, we are at an actual kinetic war with our brain-addled conjoined twin.
to the canadians in the comment section here. who are more inclined to resist. and want to start a local unofficial cell, you dont have to do all this yourself, but building a community of like minded people and organizing makes this a lot easier. people you can trust with your life
get your PAL license, ASAP. restricted PAL as well, not really valuable right now, but that doesnt mean it wont be in the future.once you have that, purchase 2 guns. a mossberg 500 pump action shotgun. its cheap, and reliable, and a few stacks of shells, slugs and buckshot. for drones and potential close quartes. get a secondary rifle of your choice, but something with cheap or readily available ammunition is ideal. smaller calibers are easier to silence, but american troops tend to wear plates. so lets hope its not all level 4. there are many ways to make a silencer if you’re handy. also consider picking up a 3d printer and learning how to use it. theres limitless potential here.
if you dont like guns, and like doing some DIY, a drone license is about 10 dollars. and you can practice virtually as well. order cheap parts online, practice. (3d print parts as well if you like) never underestimate the amount of spare parts you can pull out of a cheap old paper printer. screws, gears, rods, motors, wiring. be creative with what you have.
learn “chemistry” and where to source ingredients, hardware stores and garden centers have reactant ingredients. research which ones work, and how to do it safely.
if you can afford it, thermal vision and night vision scopes or goggles, be prepaired to spend thousands on quality goggle. honestly you are pretty much dead without them, so avoid going out at night if you cant. unless you are doing a gray man activity.
also, flares/road flares. fantastic for blinding those with night vision. thermal vision is hard to get around. im sure theres a way, but i havent seen a universal choice besides hiding behind something thick and cold.
meshtastic communications, radios, these are something to consider. setting up solar powered networks now saves us dangerous networking trips after the invasion. its cheap, easy to learn. and it will save lives.
also, generators, diesel ones are great (especially older ones, diesel is easier to make than gas) but solar powered ones are also nice as well. if you make a male to male extension chord you can power your house by plugging into an outlet with the generator running.
heating. electric heaters, gas heaters, electric blankets, regular blankets, thermal wear, whatever you can get. they will cut power, and in the winter that will kill thousands of us. be prepared. winter gear is paramount.
general camping gear is also extremely valuable. tents, cooking equipment. axes, saws, etc. all great. be prepared to have your cell live in remote areas for a time. learn bushcraft. learn how to dig a trench, learn how to dig and build a proper bunker, and how to hide it.
FIRST AID. get your first aid for the love god.
learn to live off the land, hunting, fishing, gathering local flora. create trade networks.
CARDIO, WEIGHT TRAINING. dont worry about getting a six pack, in fact, pack on a few extra inches of fat. be daddy thick, learn how to make a preserve high calorie, high fat, and high protein meals. nature and the laws of thermodynamics doesnt give a fuck about aesthetics.
transportation is also key. drones also make it virtually impossible unless you are in an apc covered in a metal mesh made of old fences and power line wires.
thats a tough nut honestly, which is why its best to just hunker down and move only when its absolutely necessary. but use your imagination, try to keep it quiet when possible. remain hidden, strike only when you can guarantee that their losses will be greater than the cost of your lives.
theres like a million other things we’ll need to know and share, but the best thing you can do is play to your strengths, learn to be resourceful with what you have, always try to adapt. and never lose hope. morale is the most important thing to any movement.
this is also gonna sound messed up, but we are going to have to be blood thirsty. and cruel. beyond anything you imagined doing before. we must be creative in iur cruelty. we have to make them remember why they feared us, and why that border was built in the first place. because once they cross that border. they arent humans anymore. they are nazis. fascists. they will rape, murder, and pillage as they always have, and they must be snuffed out, no matter the cost. our very way of life is at stake, and far more. we risk becoming the fuel to an engine that damns the world, far earlier than its intended expiration date. it is our duty not only as canadians, but human beings, to fight this machine at any cost. the cycle must end with us. regardless of what our government chooses to do for “the safety and well being of canadians” we the people decide our fates. and the fates of those who would harm us.
Not just get your first aid. Buy a personal trauma kit or build one of your own. Find a medical supply store online or in your city. Many of our medical supplies come from the US. Trauma supplies included.
For those who are good at smuggling, also consider the non-Canadian (non-gibbled) variant of the FN P90:
- This is a bullpup semi automatic that works exceptionally well in the urban environment.
- The short barrel variety can be equally as mobile inside of structures as a sawed-off shotgun, if not more so. Plus, far less telegraphing of your presence (muzzle precession) as you go around corners compared to non-bullpup long guns.
- Each of its 3 magazines can hold 50 rounds, and two magazines can be stored inside the shoulder stock.
- The brass is ejected straight downwards, and the grip is totally ambidextrous, which means it can be handed off between righties and lefties with zero mods needed. No hot brass to the face simply because the prior user was differently-handed.
- The UN ammo that is standard for it has limited range, which means it is less likely to have secondary down range casualties, yet still comes in a wide variety of slug types including body-armour-piercing.
If you want to see this weapon in use, pick up any season of Stargate SG1.
Downside is that the ammo isn’t cheap. In fact, it’s stupidly expensive. But the P90 is also used by many U.S. divisions such as the Secret Service, so the ammo can be “acquired”.
Fighting the US force gun vs. gun is just silly and a perfect recipe for both getting yourself killed and probably just making things worse as it gets more of the US public on side against us.
If they were to invade Canada you’d be much better off blending in and quietly sabotaging anything they’re involved in. If they go after power or natural resources you quietly sabotage that infrastructure to destroy their profits costing them time and money.
The idea is to blend in as a good worker bee and just keep making life slow difficult and expensive for them until they can’t take anymore and leave with tails between their legs as is the history of every American occupation since WWII.
Fighting the US force gun vs. gun is just silly
Yes, and? Force vs force is stupid. No military could win in a toe-to-toe conflict with America.
But running a guerrilla insurgency without weapons? That’s even worse than stupid. You might as well explicitly line up to be shot.
Now, the efficient method is to pick up the tools and supplies that they drop. But you gotta make them drop shit in the first place, and then you’re limited to what they drop.
I’m just learning that 2/3 of Canadians can’t read or see.
>50% have normalcy bias, where they fully believe the stuff they see on TV only can happen in far away places. Because it never has here in living memory.
I think it gets even higher once you get to the elites who could actually prevent it.
To be fair, most Canadians don’t have a very good understanding of the history in central and South America. Maybe if we did, more Canadians would recognize the parallels with the Alberta separatist movement.
My 86-yo father is in the opening innings of dementia, and even he is successfully reading the writing on the wall. And this, despite a 5th grade education and a lifetime of blue collar work.
He’s currently trying to financially coerce my nephew to move back out of Alberta, as in his mind the agriculture and oil sands of that province will be one of Trump’s first objectives. I really can’t disagree with that analysis.
Hell, his side of the family came within a hair’s breadth of ending up in a Nazi concentration camp, so he’s always had a dim view of authoritarianism. About the only way he’s ever leaned in that direction is when politicians followed through with everything they said they were going to do. Such as Pierre Trudeau – he hated the guy with a passion, but deeply respected how he always did pretty much exactly what he said he was going to do. No lies, no bait-and-switch, just an exceedingly honest (albeit arrogant) politician.
Yesssss! Cobra chickens are ready to strike!
With good cause. I have not been able to prevent my country from taking over venezuela. Popular opinion and such no longer matters here and trump has said his only limitation is his own morality which does not exist.
Way too low, we would be swallowed up whole by fascists if people don’t wake up.
We’ve got a third of Canadians believing the US may invade Canada and most Canadians view the US as the single greatest threat to our sovereignty, and yet we somehow keep making moves that integrate us more with US security strategy. We are doing nothing to cut them out or to harden our southern border, but we get legislation that aligns us more with the NSA on information security, we get military spending focused on their demands for Arctic security thousands of kilometers away from where all our population is clustered right next to the border with them, we get cybersecurity integration with Microsoft in Ottawa and commitment to use of their AI in our public services…
Despite the rhetoric of independence and the actual economic diversification, it looks like we’re still on the same team when it comes to security. There is a huge gap between public perceptions of threat and what’s actually being done at a policy level.
It’s a third that leans poor and less educated. Fancy people are still on a “business as usual” kind of wavelength, which is also how it’s been allowed to get this bad.
I know a good number of highly educated and well-off Canadians who consider it a possibility.
Good to hear! That hasn’t been my experience.
I wonder what kind of hard numbers there are on that.
Ive got a few ideas im sure would be added to the war crimes section after the war if they did.
You could never fit that many geese into a single outhouse.
I’m hoping every person in Greenland also has that in mind.
Only a 3rd, are the rest of us sleeping through this shit?
Honestly, I’m still confused by everyone thinking he would invade. If you look at what Trump does and ignore what he says, it’s pretty clear we are still military allies.
Trump doesn’t do much. He’d have to have actual knowledge to operate those levers. He makes demands, and the ones he makes a lot get carried out by other officials out of self-preservation.
Greenland is one of those repeated and clear demands. Canada is up in the air… for now.
Conservatives are cheering it on and itching to sell the country out.
Non-voters and the usual 3rd who would’ve sold us out to Trump.
Does anyone seriously think the cons will never win an election here again before our latest nazi trend burns out?
Edit: ah i see, heads buried in sand.
Trump doing things is actually what gives me hope. If the trade war hadn’t happened we’d be following the US trajectory exactly, and PP would currently be PM. As it is, Doug Ford is kind of repeating what Churchill did way back when, starting fascist-aligned and then moving off, and might be the next Conservative to actually win.
Hey that’s refreshingly optimistic in a realistic way for once, can’t knock that view.
My concern is less about the figurehead of the Conservatives vs the undeniable rot of the party behind the scenes. Living in Alberta has admittably darkened my views to a massive degree.
Non-voters and the usual 3rd who would’ve sold us out to Trump.
The same portion of the US public that allowed him to get elected in the first place. And to get re-elected.
All I’m saying is it’s a similar situation here and Carney could be our limp dick Biden.
We don’t need to, the Albertans will hand it to us in another 15 years or so.
treaty law makes that very unlikely.
Does treaty law make a US invasion more, or less likely?
An invasion isn’t Alberta handing themselves over?
You think any Americans and Mexicans had this conversation about Texas 200 years ago?
What?
Texas was once a part of Mexico. I’m sure there are history books that tell this story differently, many of which are likely written in Spanish, but:
At the time, the United States was looking to expand, pretty much to our current borders. We had some destiny to manifest. We bought the Louisiana territory from France, murdered just…so many natives for the Great Plains, and we approached Mexico to buy the West Coast. Mexico said no. Texas was a Mexican…state? Territory? Part of Mexico at the time, and wanted to secede from Mexico and join the Union. Mexico didn’t like this, the USA did, Texas seceded, temporarily self-governing as a nation as they drew up a constitution and applied for statehood. And Mexico declared war.
The United States won this war. Outright. We conquered the capital, the Stars and Stripes flew over Mexico City. The result was the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, in which the territory which are now the states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and some of Colorado and Wyoming were ceded to the United States in exchange for 15 million USD plus “paying all debts owed by the Mexican government to American citizens.” Mexico gave up any claims to Texas and set the international border at the centerline of the Rio Grande. You notice how the rest of the border from the corner of Texas out to the Pacific are great circle routes? That’s how you know they were drawn by treaty…a bit like the 49th parallel.
Now, me personally? I’ve got no design on Canadian territory. I don’t want to annex Alberta. But, it is my understanding that Alberta has its fair share of MAGA hats, which shouldn’t even make sense.
I’m speaking from a direction of “those who don’t study history are doomed to repeat it.”
I’ll go fight with the Canadians any day.
You could fight for your own country today and maybe they won’t have to.
Invading Canada would backfire drastically…
Some states would side with Canada early, others like Cali I think would see their own civil war because Newsom wont do it but the people would want it.
Cali is a huge reason the US is the juggernaut it is in the global economy.
You think Americans would fight for us? They don’t even fight for themselves!!
I think it entirely depends on how agressively the USA wants Canada. The wars in the middle east would look like a play date compared to a legitmate aggressive invasion of a neighbouring nation. I fully believe the Canadians would put up a damn good fight and insurrection, but life wouldn’t be pleasant for many and as we’ve seen from America’s track record, many non combatants will be caught in the crossfire.
Canada wouldn’t put up much of an armed defence. They’d take out some invading aircraft and take norad systems offline. There would be some resistance, but officially Canada would surrender quickly. Then there’d be decades of sabotage (eg electrical distribution, poisoned water supplies) plus assassinations throughout the states - and no centralized target for the U.S. to fight back.
They’d maybe be able to nuke, hellfire, or take our cities but the real fight would happen in the treeline. And Canadians would win the insurgency.
Given the current treatment the USA is giving their own people, i could see them implementing nationwide policies to root out Canadian resistance and provide incentives for people to rat out insurgents. I’m not certain decades of sabotage would happen, especially considering how similar their cultures are. I’d imagine most insurgents behavior would stop with 5 years of the surrender and the vast majority of Canadians would accept their new reality. Any remaining incidents would be so infrequent the other violences inherrent in america would drown them out.
Canadians would all be under intense surveillance and I’m pretty sure the USA would not allow us to travel freely. That’s how they’d try to stifle guerrilla resistance: they’d pin us down in our towns and cities and watch our every move. Since Canada is still addicted to US tech, in our homes and work and government, such surveillance would be easy and pervasive. And if, like me, you have criticized the USA online for years, you can expect them to know and come for you, and they’ll have the camps ready. We would not be living freely under US rule. The idea that we could sit tight and wait for chances to fight back is optimistic.
They’d take out some invading aircraft and take norad systems offline.
Hopefully after first inserting some digital sabotage into those systems to interfere with the US invasion plan.
if this happened, I’d dedicate my life to destroying america, bit by bit
I think by the time they get to us they’ll be spread so thin in Venezuela, Greenland, Mexico, Cuba, etc… that they may not be able to mount enough of a force.
But who knows? It being a completely moronic idea never stopped Trump before.
US military spending is $895,000,000,000
Venezuela $3,920,000
Greenland $0
Denmark $9,780,000,000
Mexico $16,450,000,000
Cuba unknown
Canada $29,070,000,000That’s $895 billion for the US compared to $55.3 billion for all those countries combined. There is no way the US will ever been spread thin enough to prevent them from doing whatever they want.
If their dollar is worthless and the troops aren’t getting paid then it doesn’t matter how many trillions they spend on the military. Canada, the EU, China, Japan all own US debt and treasury bonds. A coordinated sell off would end Amerikkka.
And the US spent much more than the Taliban. Who’s in charge in Afghanistan these days?
We’re talking about invading, not controlling.
So they’re going to invade and then what? Leave?
No, you brought up Afghanistan yourself. They’ll invade, kill a pile of people, attempt to rule for 20 years before giving up. The important thing is the years of misery and destruction before they do.
The entire Canadian military is probably a pretty even match for the California National Guard.
Well they’ll be busy fighting the Florida national guard so we should be ok 😇
I think they will try to ruin our economy first, the Venezuela oil is a big playing card for them. Then they’ll try to convince us that but will be less painful to join them, and unfortunately there are some here that will push for that for their own gain.
I think they will try to ruin our economy first
That’s what Trump claims his tariffs are supposed to be doing.
May he keep shooting himself in the foot.
its a pincher move. greenland and alaska.
Greenland would be a valuable asset for either a military invasion or a trade embargo on Canada.
define “may.” Obviously I think it may happen. Would I bet that it *will? No. Greenland is much likelier and polymarket pegs that at just 11%.
Polymarket odds at time A can be very different from at time B. Prediction markets, like other markets, are not efficient. If they were, nobody would make any money in them.
If you think probability can’t change over time you need to learn about Bayesianism.
Manifold predicts generally better than Polymarket, but Polymarket is still quite accurate, accurate enough that I doubt I could do better myself, and doubt most people could do better.
Obviously an efficient prediction market should have accurate predictors make money off of less accurate predictors. Not sure what you mean by that.
I’ll take my Grossman-Stiglitz over your EMH any day.
Well I don’t claim that there can’t be a better way to make predictions. I’m only claiming that if there exists a better way, it’s not widely available.
But hey, I invite to you to put your money where you mouth is. If you can do better than Polymarket, why don’t you go ahead and make some money off it?
