• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    My line in the sand was when Nintendo went after GMod hosting of their character models.

    When they go after emulators, I was upset but at least acknowledge there’s an economic relation there - and there’s some legal basis for protecting their copyright (even if the emulator itself is technically outside their rights).

    But taking down models used solely for fan creations is just pointlessly mean. No developer I know is upset about people putting up animations of their game protagonists doing silly shit like slipping on banana peels or getting blown up.

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      Even before that. Nintendo went after small time Smash Bros tournaments. Giving them CND. Never gave them a cent after that, and I didn’t even play in those tourneys

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    That corporation is still operating as if they’re in the 80s, going by their “good old Showa values”: heavy-handed proprietary control of their content and platforms, while making heavy use of nostalgia and its properties to keep the money coming in from casual gamers.

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      They literally couldn’t care less, people will buy anything with Pokemon or Mario slapped on it anyway.

      But still, fuck you Nintendo.

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        I’m doing my part by never exposing my kid to Nintendo and capturing all my kid’s friends before they leave tablet gaming and convincing their parents to look into PC gaming and steam decks. It’s an easy sell to their parents once I show steam’s parental controls and how every game isn’t full price all the time. Plus remote play makes the initial cost low if they have a computer. Their kid can just play my kid’s games. I’ve already converted 6 kids. My kid just started first grade, so I expect to convert a lot more.

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          I’m doing my part by (…) capturing all my kid’s friends before they leave. (…) I’ve already converted 6 kids (…) I expect to convert a lot more

          The cult commends you!

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            I don’t see why. I grew up with those systems as well, but Nintendo is actively hostile to videogame culture, so there is no reason for my child to develop a love of Pokémon or Mario. She can be nostalgic over new things.

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              I think you are missing a big part of my meaning.

              As an original Nintendo child, they were different. If they are so bad now that you and others are not letting them be Nintendo children, then it’s sad for me because they aren’t who they used to be.

              If you can’t see how is a dad thing that something I loved is now a shitty thing, you are going to have a really tough time in life, given the last few years.

              As the saying goes never meet your heroes. Innocence lost kinda thing.

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        Lots of people do not buy them, for exactly this reason.

        When I can play Pokemon games on my Steam Deck I’ll think about buying them. Until then I’ll continue hating on Nintendo to anyone who will listen. And many more who won’t.

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        yea i saw how they were sitll complaining on the pokemon games, knowing how bad masuda made it for the post-SWSH games, and people said you BOUGHT it.

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      as long as they can convince young kids to badger thier parents for the new console they will keep doing it.

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        Their behavior definitely put them out of the running when getting a portable console for my kid’s birthday. He got a Steam Deck instead and he absolutely loves it because he can play Minecraft Java edition on it.

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    And when I thought Nintendo couldn’t get any lower it just does it again.

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      It would be incredible if somehow every streamer and tuber just stopped broadcasting anything Nintendo, which seems to be something Nintendo wants. I wonder how much of a hit they’d take without those content creators.

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      They will keep doing it at each and every opportunity they get, even if they have to create new opportunities to do it, they will do so, always. They have already shown who they are.

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        I mean… The Switch hardware was obsolete before it even came out. Not saying you need a Switch 2, but you might want to consider upgrading to something.

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          The Switch hardware was obsolete before it even came out

          Show me a more powerful handheld from the year 2017, that has the same (or smaller) size. Just 1 example is enough :)

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            Are you suggesting that the hardware wasn’t extremely outdated?

            The Tegra chip was 2+ years old at the time of release.

            The Switch has been incredibly successful, has had solid first party games, and was successful with it’s gimmick… But it’s a fact that the hardware was outdated the moment it was released.

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          It does what I want it to, and works fine for the games I play on it. I also have a steam deck, as well as a gaming machine of Theseus, and a PS4, amongst numerous other systems for various purposes and uses. I honestly think I’m going to just straight up skip the S2.

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          Why? If it does the job, why is an upgrade required? There are tons of games to be played on it, and as long as it keeps working, there’s no reason one can’t still have fun with it.

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      glad i dint buy the first switch, knowing that nintendo/masuda enshittfied the console and pokemon games. plus i dint want to pay all the fees for going online, haivng a pokemon storage+ DLC.

      just like with thier TCP trading card game counterpart, tcp japan and tcpi is equally stupid; doing very little against scalpers and pokevesters.

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    Aim at foot, pull trigger. What company lets such an opportunity of free showcasing and advertizing run through their fingers?

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      Last Nintendo product I ever bought was in the SNES era. Didn’t care about the 64 and for the Wii I found CEMU.

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        mine was the 3ds just before the forced to the SWITCH if you wan to play the new gen pokemon games. homebrew was so fun on it because i was also playing shuffle for a while on it.

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    Two decades from now, people will talk about how Nintendo managed to ruin itself, from a gaming behemoth to some gacha subsidiary bought for a single yen.

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      Nintendo has ALWAYS been like this. The SNES could easily play games from Japan on the NA console. But Nintendo wouldn’t allow it. how? look at a North American SNES cartridge. notice those notches on the bottom? inside the console where you plug the cartridge in you’ll see two pegs for where it connects to said cartridge. just little plastic pegs. Japanese Super Famicom carts didn’t have this. So how do you play Japanese games on your US SNES? remove those pegs.

      you remove those little plastic pegs and suddenly your SNES is region free.

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      Nintendo sits on a load of hard cash and has Apple-like profit margins. They’re not going away anytime soon and I think that’s for the best. They’re one of the last AAA publishers focused on innovation in gameplay which is why I can forgive them being mildly brain damaged sometimes.

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        No load of hard cash is large enough to allow a company to systematically screw things up; specially not under an economic system that equates “stable profits” with “failure to grow”.

        And Nintendo’s actions aren’t the result of [metaphorical] brain damage; there’s a consistent pattern here of exploiting brand value for short-term profit.

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          I’ve read that with current Nintendo finances they can afford to not make any profit for something like 10 or 20 years. I genuinely think that they’re not as much as malicious as they are stuck in very outdated thinking that’s prevalent in Japanese business. They don’t get any short term profit from things like this.

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          Nintendo doesn’t work like your typical western companies where failing to increase profit each quarter = death (investment funds like blackrock play a big part in this, but that’s a different story).

          They have a number of mobile games, but they don’t invest heavily on those, despite said games being high earners - Fire Emblem Heroes’ revenue has decreased consistently year by year, but still brought in ~48mil dollars in 2024. If anything, that’s proof that they are not exploiting brand value for short-term profit. Their problem is a brain-damaged overzealous protection of their IP, which isn’t uncommon in Japan: Johnny and Associates controlled with an iron fist all the photos and videos that could or could not be shown of idols under their management

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        I worded it in a dumb/certain/silly way but, unless drastic changes happen, I do find it likely to happen.

        Look at how often Nintendo is surfacing negatively on the news:

        • harassing a small dev studio over patents,
        • trying to kill emulation while profiting off it,
        • bricking hardware already sold to customers,
        • demanding unreasonable prices for new games,
        • dictating if you shall be allowed to feature one of its games in a speedrunning event…

        Nintendo stopped being seen as a company that enables your fun, to become one that gatekeeps it. That’s brand damage - and really bad for Nintendo’s console sales; people are only willing to invest in a console if they’re reasonably certain they can have fun with it.

        And at the same time, there are voices within and around Nintendo pushing the company towards the mobile market. Remember Pokémon Go? Or Ishihara saying the Switch 1 would flop, because of smartphones? If Nintendo console sales decline meaningfully, those voices will become louder and louder. Eventually Nintendo will focus primarily on the mobile market.

        However people don’t typically buy mobile games; the monetisation strategy is completely different - microtransactions, gacha, lootboxes, all that crap. Most players (the “minnows”) won’t drop a penny on the game, but huge spenders (the “whales”) compensate for that, so it works.

        The minnows aren’t just freeloaders, mind you; they’re required to keep the game alive. So mobile game companies need to fine-tune the pressure in their games - it should be just enough to encourage people to spend some money on the game, but not enough to shoo the minnows away.

        But we’re talking about Nintendo here. A company willing to damage its own brand for a few additional pennies. Nintendo would not be able to see all those minnows and say “hey, that’s cool”, it would go full “ARE THOSE FREELOADERS STUPID? DON’T THEY KNOW THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BUY STUFF?”. It would tune the pressure way up, and ruin its mobile market, after it ruined its console market.

        …perhaps it should go back to selling playing cards.