• fodor@lemmy.zip
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    6 days ago

    Not exactly. The mass pig expansion program across the country in the 1990s was spearheaded by Bill Clinton. The pro pig Dems are just as actively racist and murderous as the pro pig Reps.

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        That’s the thing; most democrat politicians hate him nearly as much as the republican ones do, as they’re more similar to one another than either is to him. There are a few exceptions, but we’re going to need people aligned with Mamdani to be the norm rather than the exception if we want the democratic party to become a real force for good.

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            Why? The party is dead. They’re just holding onto their seats

            Take the seats, you take it all. Keep the infrastructure of the party, keep the name recognition and the data they have, and replace the members

            It’s happening already - Hoggs funneled money into Mumdani’s primary even as they try to ratfuck him out…

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              If the party is dead, why rely on a party designed from the ground up to serve wealthy donors? Entryism doesn’t work.

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                You spelled “take” wrong

                It matters because the party isn’t the people, it’s infrastructure. It’s buildings, it’s support staff, it’s mailing lists and payment processors

                It’s getting a special (often unfair) place on the ballot in all 50 states. It’s 50 (often flawed) primary processes that follow local laws

                And it’s a banner. Not one people like, but it’s one banner. A banner that theoretically stands for democracy and the common man

                The left is not organized. Do we rally behind a fresh, ideologically pure banner? Which one? How long to work out which group is the best? How long until we can build up that infrastructure?

                Fuck that. Winning is what matters.

                The people are on our side for now, there’s so much anger and energy. How long until they adjust to the new normal and go back to refusing to believe in a better world?

                We have a chance right now. The next 18 months. In one sweep we can take a tattered banner and get in control - before people get cold feet. While they’re still just screaming for someone to stop Trump.

                We can use the momentum to unfuck our democracy once we take control, but we can’t get distracted. There’s no room for purity or lofty ideals. We have to take what is offered and exploit every opportunity. We have to use the system against itself.

                We have to win. Now. Or we all die

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                  take what is offered

                  That’s the true Blue MAGA spirit.
                  We’re shit, we do a little genocide and whatever but forget that and vote for us bcs we’re not Trump.

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    if you still think that reps and dems are the same after Trump’s actions during his current term, then you must not be reading any news or you’re willingly blind to his atrocities.

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      “willingly blind to his atrocities”
      Says the Blue MAGA character that for a year at least didn’t want to see the painfully obvious mental state of Genocide Joe(IDGAF) but worse, his atrocities in occupied Palestine or the kids he put in cages in record numbers.
      Complete hypocrite.

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        Let me guess: You didnt vote for Harris and wouldnt have voted for Biden? You still call him genocide Joe showing how completely stupid you are. Under Biden Gaza got some help at least. Trump wants Gaza to be cleared of Palestinians to built his Hotel there. Why dont you call him genocide Trump?

        You are responsible for everything that is happening to palestinians under Trump if you didnr vote for the only candidate that could have beat him.

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    The republican is actively killing. Yeah that seems to check out.

    I know you’re trying to say they’re the same but no, they’re not. You accidentally showed how dems are better.

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      Yeah…they are watching and doing nothing…a failure and an accessory. The results are the same whether they are there or not, when they could prevent atrocities.

      This who is better bullshit doesnt matter, they are complicit.

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      The liberal brain, gentlemen. Tou Thao was convicted for keeping bystanders from intervening while not doing anything himself. He might’ve been less worse, but he still deserved to go to prison. And he remained unrepentant to the end. Of the four cops he got the second worst sentence despite never laying a hand on Mr. Floyd precisely because he refused to admit any culpability. It really is a good comparison, seeing this comment.

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        It’s really a great representation because if Floyd actually overpowered Chauvin, you know for a 100% fact that Thao would have resorted to the same direct violence himself, he just didn’t have to because someone else was doing the dirty work sufficiently.

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    Yeah. But also a quick test to see how far gone American society is: if the Dems get elected it means that, at least for the sake of optics and spin, morals play some sort of role still.