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  • majari42@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    14 days ago

    So this is where the Amarican people no longer accept this president and rovolt in an unprecedented rage, amiright?

    Like, finally take an example of the French and other counties and finally unite in a massive violent protest, right?

    Please learn from history, it’s the only way.

    We’re patiently waiting and watch eagerly from the sideline here in Europe, come on, act!

    • Bruncvik@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      14 days ago

      I’ve been in the US two months ago, in a very Democratic city, socialising with only very anti-Trump people. Not a single one cared what happened outside US borders. They were upset about the inflation, cost of living, loss of privacy and civil liberties, etc. There may be some who do care about the US foreign policy, but unless thousands of Americans start returning in body bags, there won’t be enough critical mass to stage any revolt or even protests worthy of Trump’s attention.

      • Invertedouroboros@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        14 days ago

        I’ve lived in the US my entire life. I wish I could tell you your wrong.

        I can’t.

        Some of my earliest memories revolve around watching the evening news, listening to them say that “X amount of American lives were lost” and wondering why “American” lives were substantially different or worthy of note. A life lost is a life lost. And that’s a tragedy no matter how you slice it. Where that life started or where it lived has no bearing whatsoever on it’s value.

        At least… that’s what I believe. The current state of things has me thinking I might be in the minority on that one.

        As to revolution, protest, anything that could even prove an inconvenience to the status quo… I’ll believe it when I see it. Not to make excuses, but I think forces in the American culture have been working to defang popular protest since at least the civil rights movement, or perhaps even earlier. Even if it’s demostriably wrong… I can’t begin to tell you how demoralized I feel. My government just… went and did this. It’s illegal. The very shape of our government is supposed to prevent this kind of thing from happening. And yet… here we are. One illegal invasion and (apparently) kidnapping of a sovereign head of state later.

        …I wish it were otherwise, but it feels like there’s very little that can be done about it. Americans just… don’t seem equal to the task of holding their government to account. The one thing we are supposed to be good at.

        I can’t even begin to tell you how many outrages there were up to this point. Too many. Far too many for concence to allow. This… feels different. Is different. Has to be different, then the way we’ve been allowing things to ride.

        But… I’ve been disappointed before. I’m certain I’ll be disappointed again. I hope this will be different, but…

        …I can point to plenty of times it should have been different before. Times that would have prevented this from happening. It’s… hard to maintain hope in the face of that.

        • pishadoot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          14 days ago

          I mean, philosophically all lives are equal.

          But you value people you love, your family (I assume) more than your neighbors. And you care about what happens in your town more than in another city in your country, and you care more about your country than others…

          USA had a pretty bad plane crash a couple months ago in Louisville; about a dozen people died. I care, it was a tragedy, but I guarantee you that the people in Louisville care a lot more than I do.

          And it’s the same reason a nation will care more about its citizens vs the citizens of other nations. Kind of obtuse to pretend that’s not how people work, no?

    • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      13 days ago

      timeline

      Stop with this shit. This isnt some Marvel movie. It’s reality. You are living in the rising age of American fascism, as you have been for the last year.

      • MrFinnbean@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        13 days ago

        Its also somewhat witty way of saying that what is happening right now seems so unbelievable it must be somekind of mistake.

        Dark times make dark humour and jokes are often easiest way for people to start process things and it does not equal inaction.

        If you dont want to see remarks like that, you should maybe stay of internet.