• Bgugi@lemmy.world
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    Anybody who’s against North Korea is against democracy. Anybody who’s against nazis is against socialism.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      Just to be clear, your implication is that Antifa isn’t actually anti-fascist, but is fascist themselves?

      Do you realize how hard it would be for antifa, a decentralized concept that people self identify as, to band together to oppress everyone in favor of nationalism? And what nation would they be oppressing for?

      If you are correct, and I want you be clear that you aren’t and you’re dumb, but if you are correct then I’m fucking impressed by antifa more than ever.

      • felsiq@piefed.zip
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        I think they’re just saying names aren’t always accurate, given the North Korea -> democracy (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) and Nazi -> socialism (National Socialist) examples.

        Antifa is great but sweeping statements based only on a name like the one they’re responding to are definitely not accurate

        • gray@lemmy.ml
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          This assumes that antifa is an organization of some sort. If you think of antifa as an identity or aspiration the statement makes sense.

          Edit misspell

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            Felsiq is right on the money - it’s a braindead argument regardless of how you feel about antifa.

            I don’t know why people itt keep saying that “it’s not an organization” somehow absolves it of any misdirection regarding its name.

            I suppose a more direct comparison is “if you’re anti-pro-life, you’re anti-life.”

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      Antifa isn’t a country, party or group though. It’s a loose movement.

      A similar thing would be environmental activist (or enva for short). Sure, you could call yourself environmental activist while adocating against the environment, but that wouldn’t mean that environmental activism is bad for the environment, it would mean that you aren’t actually an environmental activist…