Switched when the OG Steam Machines came out. It wasn’t great then. It wasn’t really good until Proton Steam integration. Became great after the fast iteration with the Steam Deck
I know the hot thing is Bazzite but if you want to use it as a desktop as well, please at least use Fedora Kinoite or Silverblue. Personally I use the latest Kubuntu release so now I’m on Kubuntu 25.10, will upgrade to 26.04 when prompted, do the same with 26.10. Update cycle not so different than the larger windows updates each year. Just that every now and then a new Windows software ports to Linux, it’ll almost always be a deb installer is reason enough to me to prefer Debian based distributions than Fedora or Arch especially for new users. Don’t need to get people to install distrobox and boxbuddy. Kubuntu should just be enabling flatpaks and flathub by default rather than it being a option in the software center settings
Linux was at that point two decades ago. The dogmatic infighting between Linux developers users is ultimately what prevents Linux from being actually useful as a desktop OS.
Lots of duplicated effort happens across the system. Nowadays we have more desktop environments than ever, while the application side still has major gaps.
That is what freedom is about. Anyone can choose to walk their own path to hell as they see fit. Otherwise you just end up with Windows all over again.
We have Flatpak and AppImage, and space isn’t as expensive as it once was. The problem I have is the sandboxing and isolation can make plugins problematic.
They’re portable and don’t require that I install anything. If I’m looking for an odd tool, it’s usually the easiest way to download and test something out. It’s just nice to have a standalone executable.
Flatpaks are fine, I really have no problem with them in theory but I spend twice as long configuring them as I do with a native program, and I have to trust that the maintainer is affiliated with the project, which isn’t always the case.
Switched when the OG Steam Machines came out. It wasn’t great then. It wasn’t really good until Proton Steam integration. Became great after the fast iteration with the Steam Deck
I know the hot thing is Bazzite but if you want to use it as a desktop as well, please at least use Fedora Kinoite or Silverblue. Personally I use the latest Kubuntu release so now I’m on Kubuntu 25.10, will upgrade to 26.04 when prompted, do the same with 26.10. Update cycle not so different than the larger windows updates each year. Just that every now and then a new Windows software ports to Linux, it’ll almost always be a deb installer is reason enough to me to prefer Debian based distributions than Fedora or Arch especially for new users. Don’t need to get people to install distrobox and boxbuddy. Kubuntu should just be enabling flatpaks and flathub by default rather than it being a option in the software center settings
why? other than not being a “main branch” os I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it, it seems quite white glove.
It’s atomic and fedora, which are also the same issues with silverblue and kinoite.
Yeah didn’t have problems with it as a desktop.
Linux is at a point where we really shouldn’t be using distro specific installers.
Linux was at that point two decades ago. The dogmatic infighting between Linux developers users is ultimately what prevents Linux from being actually useful as a desktop OS.
Lots of duplicated effort happens across the system. Nowadays we have more desktop environments than ever, while the application side still has major gaps.
That is what freedom is about. Anyone can choose to walk their own path to hell as they see fit. Otherwise you just end up with Windows all over again.
That isn’t going to help the average user though. They need hand holding.
Unless you don’t want mass adoption of Linux.
We have Flatpak and AppImage, and space isn’t as expensive as it once was. The problem I have is the sandboxing and isolation can make plugins problematic.
I mean, obviously I’m not advocating that you install pipewire or pipewire plugins as appimages.
My last flatpack fight was with OBS. It refused to load external plugins, and also made v4l unsolvable at the time.
Yeah we should just choose a winner and go with their system.
This should be easy!
[Insert XKCD about adding a standard that will replace all the other standards]
You mean like we did with MSDOS?
(Quietly leaves the room)
I liked it back in the day, but I don’t mess with that stuff no more. That’s how you get another GlaDOS.
I think they were getting at Flatpaks, Snaps or AppImages (my personal favourite)
Why do you prefer them to flatpaks? Genuinely curious. I’ve only used appimages once or twice.
They’re portable and don’t require that I install anything. If I’m looking for an odd tool, it’s usually the easiest way to download and test something out. It’s just nice to have a standalone executable.
Flatpaks are fine, I really have no problem with them in theory but I spend twice as long configuring them as I do with a native program, and I have to trust that the maintainer is affiliated with the project, which isn’t always the case.
Yeah, I was referring to AppImages. But flat packs are cool too, they serve a purpose.
Yeah pick Gentoos installer. It can do everything.