I’ve had dozens of people pile on to insist Steam is not a monopoly. They’re the ones I’m quoting about it being the only store they use. They’re the ones downvoting me, and only me, for pointing out it is a monopoly, while they upvote you for also saying it’s a monopoly, but in a yeah-but phrasing.
I’ll be honest, I downvoted you, but because of the incredibly condescending tone, and for arguing against a point that literally no one has brought up in this post. I’m sorry you’ve run into dumbasses elsewhere that have wrongly tried to claim Steam isn’t a monopoly, but complaining about them and arguing against them in a post that they haven’t shown up in isn’t productive.
I refuse to be shamed on tone when every approach sees the same response.
A coy eye-roll which you cannot imagine anyone disagrees with gets brusquely scoffed at. Pointing out that people absolutely disagree with it gets treated like heavy messing.
If I can’t win I don’t play. Steam is a monopoly and people are fucking weird about it. You supposedly agree with me and you’re still treating me the same way these “dumbasses” do. If I pretend they don’t exist I get more predictable bullshit. If I acknowledge they exist it’s my fault somehow. How about no?
arguing against a point that literally no one has brought up in this post
You’re not being downvoted here because you’re wrong. You’re being downvoted here because you’re bringing up this argument you had with other people outside of this thread in a way that provides zero context and in an accusatory tone.
Even your “Dry statement” was just uncalled for. We get it. You learned what monopoly means and you wanna share it with the world. You even go so far as to say Alan Wake took so long to make a profit because Valve is a monopoly. OK sure Valve is a monopoly. Maybe, it’s one reason AW took forever to turn a profit. But you know what else could cause that? Epic absolutely sucking.
People fall over themselves to demonstrate what I’m saying.
I mention that it’s a monopoly - ‘shut up, no it isn’t.’ I mention the people who say it isn’t - ‘shut up, of course it is.’ I start from scratch - ‘shut up, what are you talking about.’ I provide two years of context - ‘shut up, that’s not in this thread.’
What sequence of words would avoid this abuse? What possible sentence would address the actual issue, without people acting like I’ve insulted their mother’s cooking?
Nobody cares about what you have to say, don’t agree with your point, or don’t find it relevant to the conversation so don’t be surprised when people tell you so. If all you want to do is people agreeing with you, start a community with like-minded people. I honestly don’t know what else to recommend you. Good luck on the internet.
If I have demonstrated anything in all my years online, it is that I am ready and willing to argue. But it’s not an argument if the other side is just saying words recreationally. That seems to be the case here, when no amount of pleading for specifics or alternatives results in anything besides ‘shut up.’
Meanwhile:
The actual topic remains that Valve is a monopoly. In what universe is that not relevant to this article about their largest competitor being so unimportant they can’t give things away? If everyone here takes that for granted, great… so why am I getting the same response as the many times people deny it? Even the meta discussion about phrasing is fraught and confrontational, regardless of what I’ve actually said. Have I offended you in some way?
I’m not asking you to feel shame, just explaining why I thought your comment was deserving of a downvote. It wasn’t intended to be personal, just informational.
Even when I ask what should I say instead?, people go ‘ooh, no, I wouldn’t say it like that’ instead of answering the fucking question.
I’ve had this argument in a wide variety of contexts and tones-of-voice. All of them get the same asinine responses. This goes beyond resting bitch font, where people interpret whatever I write in the shittiest way possible. I’m starting to think the topic is just cursed. Like it’s impossible to have a sensible conversation about Valve’s market share. All efforts descend into snipping about the commenter, or spiral out into nonsense and denial.
I beg of you, prove me wrong. What should I say instead?
I’ve had dozens of people pile on to insist Steam is not a monopoly. They’re the ones I’m quoting about it being the only store they use. They’re the ones downvoting me, and only me, for pointing out it is a monopoly, while they upvote you for also saying it’s a monopoly, but in a yeah-but phrasing.
I’ll be honest, I downvoted you, but because of the incredibly condescending tone, and for arguing against a point that literally no one has brought up in this post. I’m sorry you’ve run into dumbasses elsewhere that have wrongly tried to claim Steam isn’t a monopoly, but complaining about them and arguing against them in a post that they haven’t shown up in isn’t productive.
I refuse to be shamed on tone when every approach sees the same response.
A coy eye-roll which you cannot imagine anyone disagrees with gets brusquely scoffed at. Pointing out that people absolutely disagree with it gets treated like heavy messing.
Dry statements get downvoted.
Direct responses get downvoted.
Detailed overviews get downvoted.
Oblique implications get downvoted.
Direct application with context gets downvoted.
If I can’t win I don’t play. Steam is a monopoly and people are fucking weird about it. You supposedly agree with me and you’re still treating me the same way these “dumbasses” do. If I pretend they don’t exist I get more predictable bullshit. If I acknowledge they exist it’s my fault somehow. How about no?
You’re not being downvoted here because you’re wrong. You’re being downvoted here because you’re bringing up this argument you had with other people outside of this thread in a way that provides zero context and in an accusatory tone.
Even your “Dry statement” was just uncalled for. We get it. You learned what monopoly means and you wanna share it with the world. You even go so far as to say Alan Wake took so long to make a profit because Valve is a monopoly. OK sure Valve is a monopoly. Maybe, it’s one reason AW took forever to turn a profit. But you know what else could cause that? Epic absolutely sucking.
People fall over themselves to demonstrate what I’m saying.
I mention that it’s a monopoly - ‘shut up, no it isn’t.’ I mention the people who say it isn’t - ‘shut up, of course it is.’ I start from scratch - ‘shut up, what are you talking about.’ I provide two years of context - ‘shut up, that’s not in this thread.’
What sequence of words would avoid this abuse? What possible sentence would address the actual issue, without people acting like I’ve insulted their mother’s cooking?
Maybe not saying anything.
Further abuse.
Nobody cares about what you have to say, don’t agree with your point, or don’t find it relevant to the conversation so don’t be surprised when people tell you so. If all you want to do is people agreeing with you, start a community with like-minded people. I honestly don’t know what else to recommend you. Good luck on the internet.
If I have demonstrated anything in all my years online, it is that I am ready and willing to argue. But it’s not an argument if the other side is just saying words recreationally. That seems to be the case here, when no amount of pleading for specifics or alternatives results in anything besides ‘shut up.’
Meanwhile:
The actual topic remains that Valve is a monopoly. In what universe is that not relevant to this article about their largest competitor being so unimportant they can’t give things away? If everyone here takes that for granted, great… so why am I getting the same response as the many times people deny it? Even the meta discussion about phrasing is fraught and confrontational, regardless of what I’ve actually said. Have I offended you in some way?
I’m not asking you to feel shame, just explaining why I thought your comment was deserving of a downvote. It wasn’t intended to be personal, just informational.
And which angle would not receive the same “information?”
What?
They seem to ask how to phrase the same thing in such a way that you can’t come and reply that their tone is condescending.
Much passive, very aggression, I find it hard to side with people this snarky :(
Even when I ask what should I say instead?, people go ‘ooh, no, I wouldn’t say it like that’ instead of answering the fucking question.
I’ve had this argument in a wide variety of contexts and tones-of-voice. All of them get the same asinine responses. This goes beyond resting bitch font, where people interpret whatever I write in the shittiest way possible. I’m starting to think the topic is just cursed. Like it’s impossible to have a sensible conversation about Valve’s market share. All efforts descend into snipping about the commenter, or spiral out into nonsense and denial.
I beg of you, prove me wrong. What should I say instead?
Yeah, I can’t answer your question either, because I find it may be either hard or impossible to come up with an answer