• garretble@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    A guy one a discord server I’m on keeps trying to play the “well it’s not totally a nazi salute” card, and it’s like…then what is it?

    It’s not a wave. Not a single human on earth waves that way. No one waves by slapping their chest then throwing their arm out rigid into a point.

    And him being “weird” doesn’t give him an excuse.

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      10 hours ago

      I mean, not to mention that he recently praised German far right groups. You don’t get the benefit of the doubt about a Nazi salute a week after you praise nazis

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      10 hours ago

      Defending it reminds me so much of conversations you’d hear in random discord servers…

      Oh yeah I posted a swashtika… but really my intended meaning was the symbol of peace that was used around the world for thousands of years prior to the 1930s, and is still viewed as peaceful in countries that weren’t effected by WW2. (Umm… no you made it knowing exactly what’s popping into the minds of 95% of people you are using it).

      Also would find when they’d put character names as say some random athlete or singer or something from a small country that has an N word in the name. Again dude, we know you specifically chose that name with the exact knowledge of what people think of when they see the name. Not because you think that this group is full of people who pay attention to random b list celebrities from countries that don’t have a lot of english speakers.

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        8 hours ago

        Minor nitpick - Japan was involved with/affected by WWII and any map from there has swastikas to mark Buddhist temples.

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        10 hours ago

        Been getting mixed reception with the Bellamy Salute … probably because this is fucking serious.

        Even IF we were to give him the benefit of the doubt, the Bellamy Salute was abandoned specifically because of the Nazi use of a similar salute. AND that salute is older than Musk, so there’s no history to claim there. Combined with his recent public praise and support of the far-right parties in Germany specifically, it really leads to one conclusion.

        Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt despite all of that, and maybe claim that he’s trying to “take back” a previous American flag salute to make it American again… it reminds me of the this scene from Clerks 2 (NSFW - language). Elon is most definitely not the person that can bring that salute back.