• redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 month ago

    Strangely yes. This jacks up the price of oil in a way that doesn’t dirty Putin’s hands. It’s a bit of a weird play but makes some sense.

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      1 month ago

      Iran is a major trade partner and an important partner in the Ukraine War and they were both important allies of Assad and worked closely together in Syria. They have deep ties. There’s no way the price of oil is worth losing one of their key allies in the region.

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        1 month ago

        Why not? They have strategic value sure but Russia is nearly bankrupt, Iran for an extra year or two of solvency makes sense to me. Further weakens the US too.

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          It told you why not! Because Iran is an important regional ally and business partner and military asset.

          Russia sacrificing an ally like this for something as paltry as “gas prices” would be short-sighted in the extreme.

          Although since you seem to think Russia is “nearly bankrupt” and that this only buys them “an extra year or two” that explains why you don’t think this matters.

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            1 month ago

            Yeah the condescending really explained your point. Import export numbers, critical resources only Iran provides Russia, strategic geographic and political value. You really covered it all in those… 3 sentences formatted as paragraphs. Worthless. Down vote me if you failed econ 1.

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              Jesus do you want me to write you an essay?

              I will say they just entered a new 20-year bilateral trade and military cooperation treaty on Jan 17th of this year, which is hardly something Russia would do if they were willing to just destroy Iran in a few months. They did this because trade between the countries has risen sharply due to the sanctions against Russia, and that’s not going away any time soon so it would be foolish to sacrifice them at this stage. Then there’s the suspected missiles and drones that Iran has been (possibly) supplying Russia for its war with Ukraine, and blowing them up would disrupt that supply line.

              But if you’re determined to believe Russia wants Iran to be bombed, I won’t be able to stop you.

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        If Iran gets their own nukes, then Russia loses a big bargaining chip.

        Honestly, that’s probably the only reason why nukes weren’t used.

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          If Iran gets their own nukes, one of Russia’s most important allies in the region is safe from attack. That seems a lot more useful than a “bargaining chip”. Now, Russia risks losing an important ally and whatever bargaining chip they may have had.

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              Only empires can have dependency, Russia isn’t nearly that strong. Russia needs allies or it will be overwhelmed.

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                  Belarus has basically been driven out of the European economy, but that’s hardly something Russia did. If Russia has become an empire and Belarus has lost its sovereignty it’s because Europe decided to force the issue. Bad move, I guess?

                  Or maybe Belarus and Russia are just allies and they’re working together like normal allies do.

                  Either way, comparing this to Iran is absurd! Iran has ten times the population. Plus, China is right there. It wouldn’t work.

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                    It wouldn’t work.

                    Look at that, it’s working.

                    Plus, China is right there.

                    I think you should look at a map sometime. Unless you are taking about Russia-China relations, but that doesn’t seem to be the context here.

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                But Russia thinks it’s an empire and acts accordingly, reality be damned.