• coherent_domain@infosec.pub
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    This is a extremely confusing graph…

    The U.S. only give medicaid to green card holders and refugees: https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid/enrollment-strategies/downloads/overview-of-eligibility-for-non-citizens-in-medicaid-and-chip.pdf , and green card holder are required to have a permanent job, or married to a green card holder. U.S. Employers are also required to provide healthcare after the ACA, so those with job likely do not need medicaid https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/is-my-employer-required-to-provide-health-care.html . The only ones left are refugees and people married to green card holder/citizen, neither are legally deportable.

    This graph also reflects an extremely cherry-picked example only focusing on minnesota, somali immigrant, and “with children”?! Are they just focusing on deporting those that are on welfare AND undocumented? That set is likely close to empty, as U.S. do not provide undocumented immigrant any welfare. Also why are they not comparing the walfare number to rural U.S., where citizens are much more likely to depends on welfare. If the immigrant welfare usage is lower than their base, does that mean their base have no right to request deportation of any immigrant? Overall, I am just really confused what this picture is trying to prove.

    Do U.S. people really think anyone can just be here and get the same level of welfare as a citizen? U.S. already has a much more difficult immigration procedure than most European countries, and many people with legitimate high-paying and irreplaceable jobs are already afraid to go home because of the stupid visa system – people need to jump through bunch of visa hoops even when they are prefectly legal to be here and pay more taxes than Trump and Musk. Most of my foreign friends haven’t gone home for at least 5 years, many for decades, because they cannot afford to take months to jump through the visa hoops. Even if they do, H1B stamp only lasts one year, meaning they will jump through the hoops again no matter how legal and irreplaceable they are.

    Finally, I am interested in how much government subsidy and tax break Musk and Trump received, and how does that compare to the entire population of somali immigrants “with children” in Minnesota.

    • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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      4 days ago

      Do U.S. people really think anyone can just be here and get the same level of welfare as a citizen?

      A substantial number of Americans believe foreigners can come here and receive MORE welfare than citizens. They believe this because they ingest lots of propaganda via TV and social media that tells them this and they lack critical thinking skills.

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        4 days ago

        The funny part is that illegal immigrants pump like $80b into the welfare systems yearly. Systems which they can’t benefit from.