• 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    yhea, but it’s like ripping of a bandaid. the sooner the US turns into an isolated pariah state, the better

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      1 day ago

      It’d be nice, but the US is way too involved in global trade to be brutally fucked with like that. It’s China, then the US. The US is currently bleeding like a stuck hog, but it can bleed a very, very long time.

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      1 day ago

      the sooner the US turns into an isolated pariah state, the better

      And of the millions of people living in the US, all the minorities, all the people who didn’t vote for Trump, all the vulnerable… just… fuck 'em?

      I don’t really want an isolated pariah state with nukes, 10 aircraft carriers and the biggest army on earth. I think that’s going to make things even worse for everyone on earth.

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        10 hours ago

        And of the millions of people living in the US, all the minorities, all the people who didn’t vote for Trump, all the vulnerable… just… fuck 'em?

        They can always overthrow him (and the rest of their ruling class). It’s one genocide too late to worry about Americans; at this point the world has to move on and they can sink or swim. I’m not happy it had to come to this, but given their complete inability to reign in their ruling class I’m not going to complain now that nature is running its course.

        I don’t really want an isolated pariah state with nukes, 10 aircraft carriers and the biggest army on earth.

        Me neither, but it’s better than a murderous neocolonial empire with 1/4 of the world as vassal states. A lot, I daresay most, of the evil the US gets up to on a monthly basis is only made possible by the cooperation of its so-called allies.

      • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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        1 day ago

        imperialist BS, the US fucking over the globe for your benefit is good for you. the world stopping the US from fucking over the globe, which means it’ll just fuck over it’s people, is bad for you.

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          22 hours ago

          I’m not American.

          I don’t think turning the US into an isolated pariah state will stop the US from fucking over the globe. Quite the contrary, I think it will just make it even worse. I don’t think there’s any situation in which a nation will “just fuck over it’s people” - we live in a globalized world, that’s a pipe dream.

          I think accelerationism is a very privileged take. The first people to die will be the most vulnerable, which obviously must not be you, or you wouldn’t refer to them as “it’s people”.

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          21 hours ago

          How many times has the world intervened in US actions? Folly to think so cavalier. Also, backing the US into a more desperate state, than it is now, is frankly horrifying. Geopolitics are totally fucked.