• bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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    The longer this goes on the weirder it gets.
    A death reported before it happened?
    Thousands or hours of video tapes being withheld?
    Shipping containers he used full of incriminating documents?
    I’ve always had distain for conspiracy theories, but I also suspected the elites were probably deranged.

    Then, the other day, I was search for bbq recipes, and came across a Cannibal bbq subreddit. I assume it’s all ai, but… I don’t know what to think anymore. Trump and his friends are just so evil. All I can think about is what the nazi concentration camp people did. torture twins, make lampshades out of human skin.

    I grew up in a rural town where nothing ever happened and nobody locked their door. This is all so wrong.

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      I’ve always had distain for conspiracy theories

      I totally am with you. However, there is definitely quite a range in the theories. And it’s probably a bit naive to always fall for the narratives handed down by suspect elites on any given matter, some of them better known as “coincidence theories”.

      Some “theories” later turned out to be true. It’s quite a distance between the findings of the Church Committee, for example, or what came out of Iran/Contra, or the Pentagon Papers, or the Panama Papers, as contrasted with rando nonsense like “Nazis built bases on the moon”.

      Unfortunately, it’s hard to thread that needle I guess. People jump from the findings on Tuskagee and go feet-first into assuming Fauci did something illegal in Wuhan and/or that Covid was fake/“just a flu” and this was all a trial run/experiment to institute the New World Order and/or that mRNA vaccines were going to kill you or whatever…I mean, so many people just went buck wild during Covid.

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      In 2019 I graduated uni and struggled to find work for 9 months. During that time my boredom took me to the conspiracy subreddit… Most of the things on there are hilariously far fetched. But also people there were CONVINCED that Epstein wasn’t going to make it to trial. When he died (or escaped), my view on conspiracy theorists changed substantially. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly.

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        Well I mean someone planned 9/11. OBL.

        I will admit, I didn’t realize that all the elites of the world got together to fuck children together. Once that’s on the table, some of the theories that only involve collaboration of a few people you wouldn’t expect to be in the same room start looking more possible.

        Like how in the hell would… (random people) Netanyahu and the President of Ford and the preeminent researcher of quantum computing ever get together to (random theory) build Jewish space lasers? Oh, it was pillow talk while they were raping kids.

        Like… I don’t believe in Jewish space lasers but it feels more plausible today than it did a few years ago.

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        Not planned by americans. They just let it happen. It’s easier to hide behind “beuracratic incompetence” than actually killing thousands of people without having any whistleblowers.

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          Fair enough.

          It’s crazy that Epstein is easy to include in 9/11 conspiracies now too, considering his link to Lutnick (too lazy to spell check his name), who didn’t go into work on 9/11 when like 600 of his employees died. Not to mention Epstein’s ties to royals, presidents, and allegedly the Mossad. The who thing is so fertile for conspiracy theories that it basically grows itself.

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        At this point I wouldn’t be surprised to find out 9/11 was planned, in all honestly.

        Bin Laden didn’t blow up the projects

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            he was in pakistan the whole time, and bush knew it, he dint do anything to pursue him, including pressuring pakistan for like 7 years while he was in.

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        US actually knew about the potential terrorist attack months or a year before. it allegedly was through miscommunication between the intelligence agencies(one wanted to take the credit over the other)

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      Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini. Looks totally credible. If butchers in concentration camps (or IDF in Gaza) can be the summum of evil, why would the elite not be. Epstein compromised them and now, after Gaza, Trump is going to go to war with Iran because there’s a pedo video of him somewhere. I always assumed Israel was doing America’s dirty work in the middle east but it’s the other way around actually. One can only assume Israel has the same leverage over the UK. They all got compromised.

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        Watch Saló by Pier Paolo Passolini.

        You’re not wrong, but . . . jfc that is a hard movie to watch if you have a soul.

        Which is, of course, why Pasolini made it the way he did.

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      With how well-connected he was, how rich he was, and the fact there was a van there the night before AND his brother hired the forensic pathologist who identified his body.

      There’s no way Jeffrey is actually dead. He’s probably living it up on their island “Valhalla” raping children like always.

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      You want to get even weirder about conspiracies, him and thiel where looking for ways to make systems collapse as an easier way to make money and epstien’s death is triggering a lot of people to go down conspiracy rabbit holes thus weakening faith in existing power structures, if any of this is actually planned I bet his suicide faked or otherwise and the ripple effects might be

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        That does explains THIELs incessant obsession with surveillance(hes mostly a pedophile himeself, or at least target young men or boys), he wants all criticism against him silenced too, and he largely tried to stayed out of news spotlight to that effect. the lawsuit he backed against gawker was him getting “outed” about his business practices and not the fact that hes gay. and his ISLAND full of F-BOYS

        another bizarre incident that isnt heavily discussed was that he had “attractive young male model, boytoy”(not his current husband whom got mysteriously “allegedly defenstrated” back in 2024.

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      I’m in that rural neighborhood that never locks their doors. “Unsolved” hit and runs and “unsolved” shootings, and “unsolved” bodies being found by “hunters” are increasing. Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued – and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911. So that’s what happens to good guys with guns, they get fired for never firing a shot and calling the police on criminals.

      Fwiw, I am not suicidal. I have family I love and would never leave in guilt, shame, and despair.

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        Btw a group of armed robbers recently sued – and won! a supposedly US government protected national entity because the armed security personnel used their weapon to hold the robbers in place while they called 911.

        That’s crazy. What was the lie they came up with? That they were not robbers and were forcefully held? Wouldn’t trespassing work in favor of the security personnel?

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          Note this was a _civil_to trial, requiring only “preponderance of evidence,” so 50.5% beyond reasonable doubt. Their criminal trial is pending.

          https://legalinsights.us/assault-with-a-deadly-weapon-charges-penalties-and-defenses/

          For a conviction of assault with a deadly weapon, the prosecution must prove specific elements beyond a reasonable doubt. First, it must establish that the accused committed an act constituting an assault. An assault is generally defined as an intentional act that causes another person to reasonably apprehend imminent harmful or offensive contact. The action must be deliberate, not accidental.

          https://thegunzone.com/is-pointing-and-presenting-a-firearm-a-felony/

          H3 7. What is ‘aggravated assault’ with a firearm? How does it differ from simple assault? ‘Aggravated assault’ with a firearm typically involves pointing a firearm with the intent to cause serious bodily harm or placing the victim in imminent fear of serious bodily harm.

          But tbh, the magistrates, judges, prosecutors and defense lawyers are ask in the same pockets. Those who pay their bills on time and practice omerta skate.

          Again, I am not suicidal and have loved ones is never stick with shame, guilt, unanswered questions. Again, “unsolved” hit and runs and shootings, and oh forgot to mention, drug overdose is prevelant here. If I happen to pass away by any of these ways, gas chromatography hair follicle tests should be done, and device records subpoenaed, and my family members should file lawsuits against my county and state.

          Eta forced/coerced trafficking of adults and minors is also a big money maker here, and those respected and not so much are involved in it together.

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      It’s surprisingly hard to get AI to give reasonable cannibalism recipes.

      It’ll do it if you ask for human like meat as a placeholder though.