• m532@lemmygrad.ml
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    2 days ago

    I’ll fight you in that war. I’ll fight for science, for better living standards, for the future, against reactionary anprims.

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      1 day ago

      I think it’s not about primitivism, but discarding tools that atrophy us rather than empower us.

      I’m not sure what side humanoid robots fall on.

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        1 day ago

        but discarding tools that atrophy us rather than empower us.

        In the book it discarded tools that empowered us and ending up atrophying humanity basically forever, and even when the atrophy supposedly ended for the price of unbelivable suffering, it was only vulgar numerical and territorial growth, not empowerment. And it STILL required usage of not only forbidden tech but also technomagic required to even have a primitivist interstellar civilization.

        Butlerian jihad was deeply reactionary war and every leftist should fight against the bastards that set up the Great Convention system.

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          4 hours ago

          The Jihad was the basis for the development of mentats, navigators, prescience, most of what the Bene Gesserit could do, etc.

          The spice became a cause of atrophy as well when people became reliant on it, but that’s consistent with the theme.

          Fuck the Great Convention obviously, but the Jihad was (mostly) good actually.

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        23 hours ago

        Robots are always on the side of their masters.

        Kung fu robots don’t work for usa, so they’re on my side.

        Boston dynamics dog robots work for usa, so they’re not on my side.