• Console_Modder@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    I have been looking into self hosting a Matrix server. Call and stream quality seemed pretty good, however there can only be one person screen sharing at a time. So yeah, unfortunately Matrix won’t work as a discord alternative unless they get an update to allow for multiple people to screen share.

    I remember there was a Discord competitor called Revolt that recently changed their name to Stoat. Haven’t heard much in particular about it, but does any one have any thoughts on Stoat?

    Edit: you can view multiple screen shares at once if you use Commet

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      2 days ago

      I just checked, it seems like Stoat doesn’t have screen sharing yet. Also no video yet. Both say “Coming soon!”

      They have text and voice channels available today though.

      does any one have any thoughts on Stoat?

      It’s pretty much a Discord clone. The UI is very similar. Which is good!

      However, right now the biggest hurdle I have is the slow server performance. They’re understaffed and underfunded, the main instance is slow. Maybe it would run great if you self hosted it.


      I recently learned about fluxer.app, which is another clone.

      I just checked and screen sharing seems to be working with them. fluxer.app also has voice and text channels.

      Interestingly, fluxer.app says federation is on the road map… But, realistically who knows when that could be. Fluxer also said they’re purposely not working on federation now because they have a million other things to work on, which is totally fair.

      fluxer.app wants you to pay them starting now. They sell Plutonium, which is like Nitro. Which. Also seems kinda fair. Devs need to eat.

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        9 hours ago

        An app that doesn’t have a sub is an app that you are the product. I’m so fucking tired of subs being framed negatively or as if they need a justification.

        If a service or product is free then YOU are the fucking product. That’s how we got to this shitty point in the first place.

        There is fucking no such thing as a free lunch.

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      I’ve been trying Stoat for the past few days with friends. It’s really promising and feels a lot like discord. Haven’t had any complaints or issues with the windows app. And once it’s set up calls and servers are pretty easy to get set up. Their android app is pretty buggy though currently, it is advertised as in beta so hopefully that’ll be fixed in the future. We don’t screenshare so I haven’t looked into it but I’ve heard it doesn’t support it

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        1 day ago

        Element on PC. For mobile Element Classic only supports text chats, and Element X is the experimental app for testing voice and video calls. The PC program and Classic work fine, didn’t test X

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          I tried Commet a few days ago, not only does it look more Discord like but it allows multiple screenshares (even one user can share so many screens until their PC freezes - as shown in the picture). (The client is alpha but most of the time it worked for me)

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      2 days ago

      I believe Element can do multi-screensharing with MatrixRTC, but you can only view one stream at a time. You can easily switch between active streams though.

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          22 hours ago

          Look again, there is a specific watch button for opening multiple, then you gotta switch to grid view and turn off the setting that shows users on the grid.

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            Tbh, that sounds way more complicated than it should be. Which isn’t surprising since the Discord’s UI/UX for streams is really unintuitive and touchy

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        How do we switch between streams? My friend group hasn’t figured this out. It looks like there’s a little line to click but it does nothing.