If the only way an industry could survive is through immigration, it is obvious that there needs to be a legal path for the skilled workers to immigrate. Maybe this should have been considered before the deportation surge.
But I suspect given the sponsors of this legislation that this is unlikely to have a path to citizenship and will amount to indentured servitude.
MAGAs are inherently lazy, and thinking is hard, so they don’t think beyond their initial pleasure at seeing the Libz getting outraged at their bullshit.
It never occurs to them that Libz are pissed that the stupid policy is going to cost a LOT of money, raise prices, kill people, etc. Then those things happen, and MAGA is pissed that Libz let it happen.
They want the “migrant worker” paeudo-slavery thing they do in other parts of the world, where laborers are a separate class of worker which don’t have rights. And by dont have rights, I don’t mean like the current state of affairs where the constitution still applies to undocumented immigrants. They want to codify a separate class of non-rights into law for these people so they can never sue their employer, don’t have a minimum wage, can be charged for housing, etc
giving them legal citizenship/permanent residents meanign they would have give higher wages and pay more taxes, people arnt going to pay for that, both republican/dem homeowners.
My understanding was that many farm workers were entirely legal under temporary work programs. Farmers need a flood of additional workers during harvest, that they can’t afford year round, and people in lower income countries can benefit from a month or two of higher pay.
That’s one of the things that seem missing from this conversation. What parts of it work or don’t work? Wouldn’t it have been much cheaper, easier, respect human rights and the law to adjust that where necessary? (But probably needs to include consequences for companies)
How is that program doing? Still allowed? How do farmers expect to handle the work? Are people being terrorized by ice into not participating because they can expect inhumane treatment based on the color of their skin?
If the only way an industry could survive is through immigration, it is obvious that there needs to be a legal path for the skilled workers to immigrate. Maybe this should have been considered before the deportation surge.
But I suspect given the sponsors of this legislation that this is unlikely to have a path to citizenship and will amount to indentured servitude.
MAGAs are inherently lazy, and thinking is hard, so they don’t think beyond their initial pleasure at seeing the Libz getting outraged at their bullshit.
It never occurs to them that Libz are pissed that the stupid policy is going to cost a LOT of money, raise prices, kill people, etc. Then those things happen, and MAGA is pissed that Libz let it happen.
They want the “migrant worker” paeudo-slavery thing they do in other parts of the world, where laborers are a separate class of worker which don’t have rights. And by dont have rights, I don’t mean like the current state of affairs where the constitution still applies to undocumented immigrants. They want to codify a separate class of non-rights into law for these people so they can never sue their employer, don’t have a minimum wage, can be charged for housing, etc
100%. They look at Dubai and UAE and see opportunity
Yeah, they want immigrant labor but not immigrants.
They’re happy to see them working a field but don’t want to have to “press 1 for English”.
giving them legal citizenship/permanent residents meanign they would have give higher wages and pay more taxes, people arnt going to pay for that, both republican/dem homeowners.
My understanding was that many farm workers were entirely legal under temporary work programs. Farmers need a flood of additional workers during harvest, that they can’t afford year round, and people in lower income countries can benefit from a month or two of higher pay.
That’s one of the things that seem missing from this conversation. What parts of it work or don’t work? Wouldn’t it have been much cheaper, easier, respect human rights and the law to adjust that where necessary? (But probably needs to include consequences for companies)
How is that program doing? Still allowed? How do farmers expect to handle the work? Are people being terrorized by ice into not participating because they can expect inhumane treatment based on the color of their skin?
They considered but didn’t care enough about prospective buyers. Fewer workers means higher costs and better returns for investors.