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      Where I’m from teachers aren’t allowed to deal with it because they don’t want to be accused of something. We’re failing as a society.

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        As a teacher that paid good money to get the training, certification, and multiple degrees; I would never consider a position having to deal with human feces.

        Unless it’s very specialized special education, a student’s personal hygiene should be a family responsibility.

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          Yeah, I would honestly rather be the guy chopping up fatbergs in the city sewer than dealing with 30 kids who shit in their pants. By a pretty wide margin.

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          100% agree it shouldn’t be a teacher’s responsibility. A non special needs child that can’t wipe their ass by first grade should be considered neglected.

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      Yeah, because it comes with the client base. Even 30 years ago there were still 4 year olds that needed guidance. The children aren’t totally removed from what to do but they do need help.

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      Erh I dunno for the other parents but here children go to school as of 2.5 yo. Technically we could have him at the daycare until 3 but he was already bored to death so we chose to move him to school. At 2.5 yo he wasn’t done with it. Nowadays at about 3 he’s good for the day. Nights not yet.

      How would you approach this? Let your kid bore himself? Also when one becomes a teacher for such small kids they expect this… until they are about 4 it’s not exceptional. They have additional personnel helping them even.

      They also still do nap times… is that also unfair to the teachers?

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        That’s not actual school with certified educators. You’re talking about daycare and preschool. They deal with diapers and basic motor skills. If it was school there would be state standards with regular testing.

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          Nha kiddo is outa daycare trust me I felt the billing difference… preschool technically until he’s 3 but in his school it’s mixed classroom. Belgium btw.

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            Wikipedia says that Belgium provides a free pre-school from the age of 2.5 years and pre-school is mandatory at the age of 5 years.

            This is what pre-school looks like:

            There are no formal lessons or assessments, and everything is taught through a framework of play.

            Feel free to correct me, I‘m not from Belgium.