• MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    How is the activity relevant?

    Are you sure you enjoy winter? Maybe you just like going outside. No winter “needed” for that.

    And before you say “I like being outside during/because it’s winter” the exact same sentence works for people who “like being cozy indoors during/because it’s winter”.

    The latter is not possible in the summer, the way it isn’t possibly for you to enjoy “winter” in the summer by walking into a refrigerated hockey hall. It’s not winter.

    Because it’s a time of year, not an activity or even a set of conditions.

    Different people enjoy the same thing for different reasons. That doesn’t make them dishonest or hypocritical.

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      Yeah you nailed it. I have versions of this debate (although more lighthearted) with friends and family sometimes.

      There are also lots of things to like about the winter season besides just the cold. Like there being less/no insects both inside and outside, the world generally being a bit quieter, etc.

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      The activity is the only relevant part. If I like to ice fish, I’m only gonna be able to do that during the winter. Therefore I like the winter, because it enables me to do the activity that i like.

      Nothing about the winter enables you in particular to sit with cocoa and a heated blanket. Other than the fact that you like to sit under blankets with cocoa.

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        Then I’d argue, you just like ice-fishing.

        How does that lead to liking winter? That’s just the time of year.

        The answer, is the same way people who like winter for any other reason.

        Nothing about the winter enables you in particular to sit with cocoa and a heated blanket. Other than the fact that you like to sit under blankets with cocoa.

        Ask around. The vast majority of people will simply say “it’s not the same”.

        Because it isn’t. It’s not winter.

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          3 days ago

          You can’t do it at another time of year. Now i think you’re the one being dense.

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            Why does that lead to liking winter?

            I hate insects.

            They only show up in summer.

            Does that make me a liar if I claim to like summer?

            You can think whatever you like, it doesn’t change the fact you’re detecting dishonesty where none is present.

            You’re just wrong.

            Liking a time of year does not require engaging in “exclusive” activities to “prove” it.

            End of discussion.

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              Why does that lead to liking winter?

              I can tell that you lack reading comprehension, go back and read it again.

              Liking a time of year does not require engaging in “exclusive” activities to “prove” it.

              What a pointless argument then. Why do you bother arguing about liking seasons or not, if you don’t care about the characteristics of a season?

              Does that make me a liar if I claim to like summer?

              Well, either you are lying to yourself or to me. But what do I know about you.

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                1 day ago

                The discussion is over.

                I’m clearly incapable of helping you get it.

                That, or you’re a troll. Which seems much more likely.

                I can’t imagine any sane person discovering how unpopular their position is as yours, and not stopping to reconsider whether they might not have an accurate understanding of how people think about the subject.

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                    1 day ago

                    No.

                    I’m right because I’m right, and your refusal to actually consider what I’ve said in your position is mind boggling. You HAVE to be trolling? Right?!

                    Your position would require omnipotence on your part to be valid, yet you claim to be able to determine the presence of hypocrisy based on factors that have no obligation to correlate with the conclusion you are claiming is obvious.

                    Oh look, here I go paraphrasing my own point again. As if you’ll finally comprehend it enough to put together the beginnings of a valid retort.

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        3 days ago

        Bottom line: your lack of comprehension does not make other people hypocritical.

        It just makes you dense.