Not like, “taking Saudi money to look the other way over political assassination” dirt, but like typical, milquetoast establishment Democrat corruption, some money changing hands somewhere, maybe something to do with China. The kind of thing that the Republicans would do and it would be buried in the news cycle within 5 hours, but if a Dem is caught cheating even stupidly and mildly, they will roll over screaming like a startled baby goat.
Dems are too hung up on “The high road” and fold so easily under the slightest threat of being called out for something improper. Looking at you Al Franken, for forever staining the entire liberal left with the shame of being the weakest, most pathetic losers, incapable of actually protecting their constituents.
I don’t know why you think this is the secret that ends his career. Dems fail the purity tests of the type of people that actually care about that and voted Trump by not showing up. Or in even worse cases, went full horseshoe theory and actually voted Trump.
a) Reasonably tepid president’s vice president. No great achievements, but no strongly notable transgressions against the people of the country. Policies not actively progressive but not actively hostile. Supports Ukraine. Supports Israel. Runs on the platform of moderate politics.
b) Multiple times convicted felon, strongly suspected of being a pedophile and child trafficker. Catastrophic first term. Weak foreign policy in first term, already schmoozing up to military enemies of the country. Supports nothing but his own pocket.
How is that not a purity test? Even if you’re a normal person that is sternly anti-Israel, you have singled out one issue in which one candidate performs (probably, we don’t even know) worse than the other one. And still outperforms the other one on all other issues unless you’re a ten toes down white supremacist with the sole life goal to make sure people with a darker skin color suffer and a deeper pocket prosper. That’s what we call, say it with me, a purity test. Your refusal to go out and vote is complicity in the murder of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Don’t preach to me about humanity, you’re probably not even from the US.
Thing is, I care about humanity, not just “the people of the country”. Therefore, “supports Israel” is a dealbreaker.
Supporting the existence of Israel is supporting genocide. I will never vote for someone with such blood on their hands. If you would, especially to maintain your own comfort and privilege, then your soul is compromised.
Wtf are you talking about Blue MAGA? Trump also supports Israel. I didn’t vote for him.
Unless you want to play the “you voted for him by not voting for Holocaust Harris” game. Which means I also must have voted for Holocaust Harris by not voting for Trump. Infinite vote glitch!
Interesting. Harris gets a nickname but Trump doesn’t. There’s almost an undertone suggesting you think one side is worse. Let’s face it - I understand it, you understand it, by not going out to vote, you are signalling that you are a-okay with the likelier candidate winning, that likelier candidate is Trump. You are complicit, and you’re even worse than the MAGA freaks because you’re desperate to create plausible deniability. “Oh I didn’t vote for him!”. That’s great. You didn’t vote against him. Donny is pro-Israel? Boy that makes it even better. You made a conscious decision that while the only issue you care about at all is equal between both candidates, one is a convicted felon rapist pedophile, and the other is not, and you said “well I’m not willing to choose between that too”. Mask on the floor, facade ends. Your humanity extends only from Egypt to Israel and stops exactly there, I guess Trump is lucky Epstein Island wasn’t on that stretch. But hey, okay, so we were talking about purity tests originally. This still is a purity test. Kamala didn’t check a single box and she was suddenly as deplorable of Trump. That is the very definition of purity testing.
I don’t understand this primitive obsession of tankies with Israel-Palestine. Is it because the anti-capitalist, progressive left has been hijacked by far left pundits like Hasan Piker?
Or maybe there’s really no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. It’s a capitalistic show for the easily manipulated citizens of the US Empire, that have been propagandized since early on in grade school.
I will continue to try. We don’t have a lot of other options, but this isn’t a bad option, unless you only watch the bad news.
You are right about the Dems. But we have to stop getting lost in these stupid 4-year federal kayfabe WWE spectacles, when the people and organizations that hold up the Federal state are the local judges, mayors, community leaders and elected representatives.
The USA is too large and our current voting system is simple enough that it would take a very large, concerted effort to cheat the entire thing, or we wouldn’t see people like Mamdani and other progressive/socialist leaders that we saw come into power last local election cycle, and if we actually all got off our asses instead of being cynical and actually built more grassroots movements like New York did, we could kick the legs out from under this entire fetid cauldron of corruption.
i understood your point very well. My point (which i deleted because other commenters had already made similar points and with more detail than i was planning) is that your example of a victory is in fact a loss.
Mumdani is a release valve to stop radical change from happening, a compatible liberal gatekeeper who will take the passion of his electorate and destroy it by a thousand disappointments.
He is a democrat, who surrounds himself with zionists. The only radical thing about him is his identity. He is a muslim Obama, a brown-face genderswapped AOC. He is there because of his identity and his vibes.
If Bernie had won Iowa and if the DNC was at all democratic in its internal processes (superdelegates, ticket-splitting, pied piper etc) then i would share some of your optimism for internal change. We don’t live in that world. A world where people like MTG are allowed to evolve beyond partisan lines, where Massie is able to defend his constitution…
I also don’t want to blackpill you guys into inaction, so i’ll finish this mostly redundant post by saying the american people seem ready for change. The numbers of people hitting the streets to fight ICE is inspiring, and a much more concrete reason to hope than a bunch of exhausted and politically illiterate new yorkers protest voting for a god damn fucking democrat.
I can assure you that in the US a presidential paramilitary invading cities that are overwhelmingly white and shooting citizens in the face live on social media is indeed a new phenomenon.
Sort of. Miller has been involved in developing and test running the concept on years, see Hungary (field test of the fearmongering populism + the “Mike Johnson” special - we had “don’t know, wasn’t there, didn’t hear about it, ask someone else” press conference memes like 12 years ago) and other examples. Definitely involved to some degree with Fico and Putin, and to a lesser extent, Babis, Meloni and Simion. They weren’t sure they could get away with it last time Trump was up there, although if my memory serves, national guard was deployed due to maybe BLM?
I mean really, it’s shocking how fast it ramped up but I cannot say that I’m truly surprised it did happen, and if I look back at the people involved in it, it seems more like a gentle increase of the knob than a sudden twist. It’s also just that the higher you are on the dial, the closer together are the red lines.
They basically spent the last 4 years planning how to make it happen as quickly as possible.
If they haven’t finished within a year, the job risks getting much harder with an uncooperative Congress. So they have to speedrun it, no chance to do it by slow measures.
However even if 2027 swears in the results of free and fair elections, their goals are still doable, since the government said point blank the only group that can possible hold Trump accountable is 2/3rds of the senate, and that’s not happening, and everyone else that might otherwise be more reachable can be pardoned by Trump at will.
So they can get in the way of new legislation, but not pass anything (veto also needs 2/3rds, which they are not getting). The administration has already proven that they don’t wait for a law when they really want to do something.
So unless democrats somehow win every single senate race that’s up for grabs in 2026, they still aren’t going to be able to do anything by the book to actually walk things back.
I mean really, it’s shocking how fast it ramped up but I cannot say that I’m truly surprised it did happen, and if I look back at the people involved in it, it seems more like a gentle increase of the knob than a sudden twist. It’s also just that the higher you are on the dial, the closer together are the red lines.
Yeah I wouldn’t say I’m surprised, and I wouldn’t say it’s entirely “UnPReCEDenTeD” or anything, but it is new and different in terms of scope, brazenness, and certainly technology. We’ve struggled with periods of waxing and waning fascism and fascist-like governance for practically the entire history of the country. The Alien and Sedition Acts were passed into law when the country was less than two decades old. But this is still shocking, smothering, abhorrent and a departure from even ten years ago.
The argument that the US is or was always like this and could only be like this is, in my view, made intentionally to paralyze and further demoralize those of us in the US who wake to a fresh, new hell on a daily basis.
There’s a world of difference between “was always like this” and “could only be like this”.
This is precisely what the fall of Nixon has been building up to, brick by brick. But the fact is that sitting presidents could do literally whatever they wanted since at least the Bush era. It’s almost a wonder it took this long for someone to take advantage of that possibility. In that regard, it has been like this for a long time, they’ve just been very careful about what they do. And the funniest thing is that they still are. I find the claims for example that Trump is doing this to provoke a violent reaction so that the army can be deployed almost comical. Why? If you need to provoke a reaction, provoke harder. If you don’t, well, why don’t you just deploy the army for no good reason. He can, after all. He could literally attempt to murder his political opponent by coughing at him knowingly while having COVID. Bush could gaslight the entire NATO into furthering US imperial goals in the Middle East. Bush was allowed to walk away with what was essentially a stolen election. For all we know, Clinton could’ve been raping children on Epstein Island while he was sitting president. It’s been like this for god knows how long, this is the first guy with the sheer audacity to do it out in the open.
The could be different is then another question, right? I think you see the problem about how far this reaches. Almost everyone with a significant amount of capital in the US is all in on this. Media is playing along the party status quo, the faces of tech can finally come out of the closet and fall in line as nazis, insurance companies have been death dealers for the longest time, and now, a slimy greasy businessman and not politician is in charge of the country. Could it be different - sure. But the house cleaning is effectively insurmountable. Every career politician on corporate bankroll, wall street, CEOs, boardrooms, corporate private militaries, and of course, the human waste who proudly exercise their 2nd amendment rights to serve their oligarch overlords. So yeah, it could be different, but it won’t be, not like this. The system is not set up in a way that you can democratically elect someone that isn’t beholden to the interests of the same people, and is willing to do anything about it. And even those who would be willing to do anything about it will find that all the other branches are long time gone. The same supreme court that gives Trump a complete blank check to bypass the legislative branch can take the same blank check away from any progressive president for reason. You can’t rely on party lines in the legislative to help you out either, if you’re a progressive president you were miraculously elected as an independent - dems are in just as deep as GOP.
So yeah. It’s paralyzing, it’s demoralizing, but it’s also just the reality. The knob only goes way up or slightly down. Up to you how to react to that. In the same situation, I decided to up and leave my home country. It was the best decision ever.
Yeah I get it, but I just grow tired of the argument – and it doesn’t solely come from .ml users but is broadly-speaking a tiring recurrent Internet argument – that nothing ever changes and that everything has always been like this even when it obviously and provably has not.
I mean the government was hiring Pinkertons to do drive-bys on the camps of mostly-white miners. White privilege is important in America, but if it’s a showdown between that and the interests of capital, capital will win every time.
Trump also ordered the extrajudicial execution of a white man, Michael Reinoehl, in his first term. I have no idea why no one ever talks about that.
Trump also ordered the extrajudicial execution of a white man, Michael Reinoehl, in his first term. I have no idea why no one ever talks about that.
Because we continue to pretend that the police and military always act lawfully, unless there’s incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.
Even with that the news media continues to couch the video of the murders of Good and Pretti as “appearing to show” things and provides ample room on their platforms for people to lie and copagandize the American public.
Oh absolutely, the “nothing ever happens” pool of nihilistic, cynical young turds are a huge non-movement-movement. I am not sure what satisfaction people get from discouraging change to systems that they hate, the only thing I can imagine is it’s some form of self-hatred being projected outward.
Reactionary: The contemplated action attempts to change permanent structural characteristics (“laws”) of the social order; it is therefore bound to be wholly ineffective, futile.
I know the history of the US from many perspectives, I don’t need essays about it, I am educated enough to know that a great many countries have a lot of blood on their hands.
I am more concerned with solving issues here and now that harm people than joining bandwagons or tankie clubs and self-flagellating about it though.
These kinds of lists just serve like incel manifestos for people hung up on nationalist persecution rather than sexual insecurity.
A number of people here have no idea what they’re writing about, because they’re not actually from here. I saw some asshole yesterday holding up John Brown as a successful model of how a new American civil war should be fought, lol.
John Brown. If I could find it again I’d screenshot it. This is all just “let’s you and him fight” nonsense.
The number of people on Lemmy alone who will go into frothing rage when you tell them that we’re not about to have a civil war at all actually, at least not this century, tells me a lot about either how uneducated our population is, or how many people really, really get off to cosplaying as Americans online, and think they have even a fleeting idea of what daily life is like here.
Help isn’t coming. Revolution isn’t happening. But we’ve been here before in history, we can turn it around again if enough people work together.
Truth. The fact of the matter is Minneapolis is winning, or ICE would not now be there, Pam Bondi would not be issuing ultimatums to Tim Walz demanding Minnesota voter lists, Gnome would not be issuing faked videos and pictures of big guns with false narratives even as she and Bovino are casting arou9nd the rest of DHS for volunteers to come to the Twin Cities, etc. These cosplatriots are ignoring the finer points, like how ICE has been hitting the more rural parts of MN because the neighborhood networks are making it SO hard to round up anyone at all anymore.
Given the timing of all these comments, I don’t think it’s just a casual effort, but they’re barking up the wrong tree, lol.
You are 100% right: we’ve been here before, and we CAN win this if people work together. Minnesotans learned from GF, and they are leading the way. I literally could not be more proud of Minnesotans than I am right now.
I am seeing a real surge in party-line belligerence emerging everywhere online, once again in an election year. Weird how such a far-left site like Lemmy suddenly has so many people going to bat for establishment Democrats. Makes you go “Hmnn.”
I don’t think it matters either way, I feel like everyone is fed up and the administration has waaay overreached and forgotten about the sheer scale of the US and the states. States hold all the power. When states like Minnesota and others decide they’re done being pushed around by the federal government, they will start organizing a pushback and remind DC that the federal government works for the states, not the other way around. It may be a ways off still, but the momentum is increasing towards a head.
And yes, the administration is absolutely floundering right now, they have no idea how to put this all back in the tube, they thought they would have a future secured by now, it’s why they parade JD Vance around every month, desperately trying to make him seem “cool and bad” like Trump was to the right, but he comes off fake and political and people haaate him on the right. He’s everything they rejected when they devoted their blood and souls to Trump. They know when Trump finally is reclaimed by the loam and topsoil that there’s no safety net and there won’t be immunity anymore, much less electoral mandate.
Everything is racing towards a finale, one way or another there’s going to be a massive shift in the country in short order. I don’t know if it will be after the mid-terms or after Trump is found slumped over his nuggets, but it will happen.
Wild take. You read about the US recently killing civilians in many different countries, and that brings you to sexual insecurity? Another liberal that would rather bury their head in the sand rather than open their eyes. I wish I could say I was surprised.
The US being the largest global terrorist organization isn’t a thing of the past, it’s very much the present. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, and basically all before them took part in the atrocities. Yet, the solution to this problem seems to be: “vote blue no matter who.”
Go ahead and march around in costumes then, let me know how it works.
I’ll be organizing community and grassroots work like happened in New York. I know you’re probably offended by optimism but I am still fighting for my country. Not just whinging how bad things are bad.
Sharing information that clearly isn’t common knowledge isn’t whining about a problem. And working towards a slightly more moderate form of capitalism isn’t a solution. It’s just moderately less fascist.
I’m about 95% sure that there’s dirt on Walz.
Not like, “taking Saudi money to look the other way over political assassination” dirt, but like typical, milquetoast establishment Democrat corruption, some money changing hands somewhere, maybe something to do with China. The kind of thing that the Republicans would do and it would be buried in the news cycle within 5 hours, but if a Dem is caught cheating even stupidly and mildly, they will roll over screaming like a startled baby goat.
Dems are too hung up on “The high road” and fold so easily under the slightest threat of being called out for something improper. Looking at you Al Franken, for forever staining the entire liberal left with the shame of being the weakest, most pathetic losers, incapable of actually protecting their constituents.
Walz is a Zionist. Getting Israel ahead is his game.
I don’t know why you think this is the secret that ends his career. Dems fail the purity tests of the type of people that actually care about that and voted Trump by not showing up. Or in even worse cases, went full horseshoe theory and actually voted Trump.
Refusing to vote for the dogs of a genocidal regime is less “purity test” and more “basic humanity”.
No, see, you were given a choice.
a) Reasonably tepid president’s vice president. No great achievements, but no strongly notable transgressions against the people of the country. Policies not actively progressive but not actively hostile. Supports Ukraine. Supports Israel. Runs on the platform of moderate politics.
b) Multiple times convicted felon, strongly suspected of being a pedophile and child trafficker. Catastrophic first term. Weak foreign policy in first term, already schmoozing up to military enemies of the country. Supports nothing but his own pocket.
How is that not a purity test? Even if you’re a normal person that is sternly anti-Israel, you have singled out one issue in which one candidate performs (probably, we don’t even know) worse than the other one. And still outperforms the other one on all other issues unless you’re a ten toes down white supremacist with the sole life goal to make sure people with a darker skin color suffer and a deeper pocket prosper. That’s what we call, say it with me, a purity test. Your refusal to go out and vote is complicity in the murder of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. Don’t preach to me about humanity, you’re probably not even from the US.
Thing is, I care about humanity, not just “the people of the country”. Therefore, “supports Israel” is a dealbreaker.
Supporting the existence of Israel is supporting genocide. I will never vote for someone with such blood on their hands. If you would, especially to maintain your own comfort and privilege, then your soul is compromised.
But “supports Russia” is fine I suppose?
Lots of humanity in “child sex trafficker”, “pedophile”, “rapist”, right?
Delusional. Stop pretending you care about humanity. You care about this one specific issue.
Wtf are you talking about Blue MAGA? Trump also supports Israel. I didn’t vote for him.
Unless you want to play the “you voted for him by not voting for Holocaust Harris” game. Which means I also must have voted for Holocaust Harris by not voting for Trump. Infinite vote glitch!
Interesting. Harris gets a nickname but Trump doesn’t. There’s almost an undertone suggesting you think one side is worse. Let’s face it - I understand it, you understand it, by not going out to vote, you are signalling that you are a-okay with the likelier candidate winning, that likelier candidate is Trump. You are complicit, and you’re even worse than the MAGA freaks because you’re desperate to create plausible deniability. “Oh I didn’t vote for him!”. That’s great. You didn’t vote against him. Donny is pro-Israel? Boy that makes it even better. You made a conscious decision that while the only issue you care about at all is equal between both candidates, one is a convicted felon rapist pedophile, and the other is not, and you said “well I’m not willing to choose between that too”. Mask on the floor, facade ends. Your humanity extends only from Egypt to Israel and stops exactly there, I guess Trump is lucky Epstein Island wasn’t on that stretch. But hey, okay, so we were talking about purity tests originally. This still is a purity test. Kamala didn’t check a single box and she was suddenly as deplorable of Trump. That is the very definition of purity testing.
I don’t understand this primitive obsession of tankies with Israel-Palestine. Is it because the anti-capitalist, progressive left has been hijacked by far left pundits like Hasan Piker?
Or maybe there’s really no difference between the Democrats and Republicans. It’s a capitalistic show for the easily manipulated citizens of the US Empire, that have been propagandized since early on in grade school.
Go ahead and vote your way out of it.
I will continue to try. We don’t have a lot of other options, but this isn’t a bad option, unless you only watch the bad news.
You are right about the Dems. But we have to stop getting lost in these stupid 4-year federal kayfabe WWE spectacles, when the people and organizations that hold up the Federal state are the local judges, mayors, community leaders and elected representatives.
The USA is too large and our current voting system is simple enough that it would take a very large, concerted effort to cheat the entire thing, or we wouldn’t see people like Mamdani and other progressive/socialist leaders that we saw come into power last local election cycle, and if we actually all got off our asses instead of being cynical and actually built more grassroots movements like New York did, we could kick the legs out from under this entire fetid cauldron of corruption.
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Don’t be obtuse, you know well what I was trying to say, whatever your issues are with particular people have nothing to do with my point.
i understood your point very well. My point (which i deleted because other commenters had already made similar points and with more detail than i was planning) is that your example of a victory is in fact a loss.
Mumdani is a release valve to stop radical change from happening, a compatible liberal gatekeeper who will take the passion of his electorate and destroy it by a thousand disappointments.
He is a democrat, who surrounds himself with zionists. The only radical thing about him is his identity. He is a muslim Obama, a brown-face genderswapped AOC. He is there because of his identity and his vibes.
If Bernie had won Iowa and if the DNC was at all democratic in its internal processes (superdelegates, ticket-splitting, pied piper etc) then i would share some of your optimism for internal change. We don’t live in that world. A world where people like MTG are allowed to evolve beyond partisan lines, where Massie is able to defend his constitution…
I also don’t want to blackpill you guys into inaction, so i’ll finish this mostly redundant post by saying the american people seem ready for change. The numbers of people hitting the streets to fight ICE is inspiring, and a much more concrete reason to hope than a bunch of exhausted and politically illiterate new yorkers protest voting for a god damn fucking democrat.
What else do you think is going to happen? Do you think there’s going to be a coup in the US?
This isn’t new, and it doesn’t matter which of the two parties are in office. The US Empire is a cancer.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/us_atrocities.html#imperialism
I can assure you that in the US a presidential paramilitary invading cities that are overwhelmingly white and shooting citizens in the face live on social media is indeed a new phenomenon.
Sort of. Miller has been involved in developing and test running the concept on years, see Hungary (field test of the fearmongering populism + the “Mike Johnson” special - we had “don’t know, wasn’t there, didn’t hear about it, ask someone else” press conference memes like 12 years ago) and other examples. Definitely involved to some degree with Fico and Putin, and to a lesser extent, Babis, Meloni and Simion. They weren’t sure they could get away with it last time Trump was up there, although if my memory serves, national guard was deployed due to maybe BLM?
I mean really, it’s shocking how fast it ramped up but I cannot say that I’m truly surprised it did happen, and if I look back at the people involved in it, it seems more like a gentle increase of the knob than a sudden twist. It’s also just that the higher you are on the dial, the closer together are the red lines.
They basically spent the last 4 years planning how to make it happen as quickly as possible.
If they haven’t finished within a year, the job risks getting much harder with an uncooperative Congress. So they have to speedrun it, no chance to do it by slow measures.
However even if 2027 swears in the results of free and fair elections, their goals are still doable, since the government said point blank the only group that can possible hold Trump accountable is 2/3rds of the senate, and that’s not happening, and everyone else that might otherwise be more reachable can be pardoned by Trump at will.
So they can get in the way of new legislation, but not pass anything (veto also needs 2/3rds, which they are not getting). The administration has already proven that they don’t wait for a law when they really want to do something.
So unless democrats somehow win every single senate race that’s up for grabs in 2026, they still aren’t going to be able to do anything by the book to actually walk things back.
The midterms fixing anything is basically a dream, nothing else. Presidential elections might… but the democracy is unlikely to survive until then.
Yeah I wouldn’t say I’m surprised, and I wouldn’t say it’s entirely “UnPReCEDenTeD” or anything, but it is new and different in terms of scope, brazenness, and certainly technology. We’ve struggled with periods of waxing and waning fascism and fascist-like governance for practically the entire history of the country. The Alien and Sedition Acts were passed into law when the country was less than two decades old. But this is still shocking, smothering, abhorrent and a departure from even ten years ago.
The argument that the US is or was always like this and could only be like this is, in my view, made intentionally to paralyze and further demoralize those of us in the US who wake to a fresh, new hell on a daily basis.
There’s a world of difference between “was always like this” and “could only be like this”.
This is precisely what the fall of Nixon has been building up to, brick by brick. But the fact is that sitting presidents could do literally whatever they wanted since at least the Bush era. It’s almost a wonder it took this long for someone to take advantage of that possibility. In that regard, it has been like this for a long time, they’ve just been very careful about what they do. And the funniest thing is that they still are. I find the claims for example that Trump is doing this to provoke a violent reaction so that the army can be deployed almost comical. Why? If you need to provoke a reaction, provoke harder. If you don’t, well, why don’t you just deploy the army for no good reason. He can, after all. He could literally attempt to murder his political opponent by coughing at him knowingly while having COVID. Bush could gaslight the entire NATO into furthering US imperial goals in the Middle East. Bush was allowed to walk away with what was essentially a stolen election. For all we know, Clinton could’ve been raping children on Epstein Island while he was sitting president. It’s been like this for god knows how long, this is the first guy with the sheer audacity to do it out in the open.
The could be different is then another question, right? I think you see the problem about how far this reaches. Almost everyone with a significant amount of capital in the US is all in on this. Media is playing along the party status quo, the faces of tech can finally come out of the closet and fall in line as nazis, insurance companies have been death dealers for the longest time, and now, a slimy greasy businessman and not politician is in charge of the country. Could it be different - sure. But the house cleaning is effectively insurmountable. Every career politician on corporate bankroll, wall street, CEOs, boardrooms, corporate private militaries, and of course, the human waste who proudly exercise their 2nd amendment rights to serve their oligarch overlords. So yeah, it could be different, but it won’t be, not like this. The system is not set up in a way that you can democratically elect someone that isn’t beholden to the interests of the same people, and is willing to do anything about it. And even those who would be willing to do anything about it will find that all the other branches are long time gone. The same supreme court that gives Trump a complete blank check to bypass the legislative branch can take the same blank check away from any progressive president for reason. You can’t rely on party lines in the legislative to help you out either, if you’re a progressive president you were miraculously elected as an independent - dems are in just as deep as GOP.
So yeah. It’s paralyzing, it’s demoralizing, but it’s also just the reality. The knob only goes way up or slightly down. Up to you how to react to that. In the same situation, I decided to up and leave my home country. It was the best decision ever.
See, this is the problem with pretending that things were always like this, it makes it so that you think it’s impossible to ever fix anything.
They’re a .ml user, you’re not going to get much in the way of a nuanced and intelligent reply focused on solutions.
Yeah I get it, but I just grow tired of the argument – and it doesn’t solely come from .ml users but is broadly-speaking a tiring recurrent Internet argument – that nothing ever changes and that everything has always been like this even when it obviously and provably has not.
I mean the government was hiring Pinkertons to do drive-bys on the camps of mostly-white miners. White privilege is important in America, but if it’s a showdown between that and the interests of capital, capital will win every time.
Trump also ordered the extrajudicial execution of a white man, Michael Reinoehl, in his first term. I have no idea why no one ever talks about that.
Because we continue to pretend that the police and military always act lawfully, unless there’s incontrovertible evidence to the contrary.
Even with that the news media continues to couch the video of the murders of Good and Pretti as “appearing to show” things and provides ample room on their platforms for people to lie and copagandize the American public.
Oh absolutely, the “nothing ever happens” pool of nihilistic, cynical young turds are a huge non-movement-movement. I am not sure what satisfaction people get from discouraging change to systems that they hate, the only thing I can imagine is it’s some form of self-hatred being projected outward.
What is interesting is at its root, it’s basically a reactionary argument.
(From Hirschman’s “The Rhetoric of Reaction” pg. 167) http://pombo.free.fr/hirschman91.pdf
It’s only fine when the US is terrorizing other countries, right?
Bring the garbage to our streets and I’ll be forced to make a sign to convey my feelings outrage.
Never said anything like that pal o’ friend of mine. But you are forced to be ever the contrarian like a good 'lil .ml guy, so I understand.
I know the history of the US from many perspectives, I don’t need essays about it, I am educated enough to know that a great many countries have a lot of blood on their hands.
I am more concerned with solving issues here and now that harm people than joining bandwagons or tankie clubs and self-flagellating about it though.
These kinds of lists just serve like incel manifestos for people hung up on nationalist persecution rather than sexual insecurity.
A number of people here have no idea what they’re writing about, because they’re not actually from here. I saw some asshole yesterday holding up John Brown as a successful model of how a new American civil war should be fought, lol.
John Brown. If I could find it again I’d screenshot it. This is all just “let’s you and him fight” nonsense.
The number of people on Lemmy alone who will go into frothing rage when you tell them that we’re not about to have a civil war at all actually, at least not this century, tells me a lot about either how uneducated our population is, or how many people really, really get off to cosplaying as Americans online, and think they have even a fleeting idea of what daily life is like here.
Help isn’t coming. Revolution isn’t happening. But we’ve been here before in history, we can turn it around again if enough people work together.
Truth. The fact of the matter is Minneapolis is winning, or ICE would not now be there, Pam Bondi would not be issuing ultimatums to Tim Walz demanding Minnesota voter lists, Gnome would not be issuing faked videos and pictures of big guns with false narratives even as she and Bovino are casting arou9nd the rest of DHS for volunteers to come to the Twin Cities, etc. These cosplatriots are ignoring the finer points, like how ICE has been hitting the more rural parts of MN because the neighborhood networks are making it SO hard to round up anyone at all anymore.
Given the timing of all these comments, I don’t think it’s just a casual effort, but they’re barking up the wrong tree, lol.
You are 100% right: we’ve been here before, and we CAN win this if people work together. Minnesotans learned from GF, and they are leading the way. I literally could not be more proud of Minnesotans than I am right now.
I am seeing a real surge in party-line belligerence emerging everywhere online, once again in an election year. Weird how such a far-left site like Lemmy suddenly has so many people going to bat for establishment Democrats. Makes you go “Hmnn.”
I don’t think it matters either way, I feel like everyone is fed up and the administration has waaay overreached and forgotten about the sheer scale of the US and the states. States hold all the power. When states like Minnesota and others decide they’re done being pushed around by the federal government, they will start organizing a pushback and remind DC that the federal government works for the states, not the other way around. It may be a ways off still, but the momentum is increasing towards a head.
And yes, the administration is absolutely floundering right now, they have no idea how to put this all back in the tube, they thought they would have a future secured by now, it’s why they parade JD Vance around every month, desperately trying to make him seem “cool and bad” like Trump was to the right, but he comes off fake and political and people haaate him on the right. He’s everything they rejected when they devoted their blood and souls to Trump. They know when Trump finally is reclaimed by the loam and topsoil that there’s no safety net and there won’t be immunity anymore, much less electoral mandate.
Everything is racing towards a finale, one way or another there’s going to be a massive shift in the country in short order. I don’t know if it will be after the mid-terms or after Trump is found slumped over his nuggets, but it will happen.
Wild take. You read about the US recently killing civilians in many different countries, and that brings you to sexual insecurity? Another liberal that would rather bury their head in the sand rather than open their eyes. I wish I could say I was surprised.
The US being the largest global terrorist organization isn’t a thing of the past, it’s very much the present. Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden, and basically all before them took part in the atrocities. Yet, the solution to this problem seems to be: “vote blue no matter who.”
Go ahead and march around in costumes then, let me know how it works.
I’ll be organizing community and grassroots work like happened in New York. I know you’re probably offended by optimism but I am still fighting for my country. Not just whinging how bad things are bad.
Sharing information that clearly isn’t common knowledge isn’t whining about a problem. And working towards a slightly more moderate form of capitalism isn’t a solution. It’s just moderately less fascist.
You have offered nothing here but whinging and whining, you sound like a whiny kid. I’m not engaging anymore.