Bernie would have wiped the floor with Trump in 2016. Bernie is immune to any rhetoric from the right thrown his way because his principals are clear and always abides by them.
first time ive ever said something like this, but really, if the dems give us another corporate shill candidate, voting for a 3rd party candidate that has no chance might not be the worst option. maybe the country really just needs to fully implode, maybe that will finally break it out of its complacent stupor. Though, I doubt it.
How about we all start voting third party until we can establish at least 3 major parties. 5 would probably be better. It would force them to work together to accomplish things.
You don’t get 3 or more major parties in a fptp system though. The system itself is only capable of supporting two parties at most.
The voting system needs to first be changed on a state level in every state ideally, or at least most of them, so people need to start putting a lot more effort into state elections.
if the fptp voting system dictates that the two most similar parties should merge to fight the third least similar party. In that case we should start an actual leftist party so the two parties on the right can merge and absorb eachother.
It’s more that the actual leftist party will take votes away from the liberals, but not the full-on nazi party. Meaning that you’d end up with something like 15% new leftist party that nobody dares vote for because it’s new, 40% dems, 45% repugnants and now the 45% is enough for them to win, whereas previously maybe it would’ve been 55% dems.
In fact, to win an election under that system, it would be beneficial to start an even more right-wing party, because that would take votes away from the GOP. But at the end of the day, it takes a couple of election cycles for 2 dominant parties to emerge and the most extremist ones are typically the ones to lose as people unite under the more centrist banners. That’s how you get republican and republican lite, where really a lot of people would prefer a socialist party and a lot of other people would prefer a national-socialistic workers party. They have to meet in the middle and get two parties that are somewhere between the two polar opposites.
^ This person was the “good” timeline for America. Dw I’m sure voting blue will work out one day.
No Bernie was the good timeline. This lady caused this awful mess we have now because she thought it was her turn.
Bernie would have wiped the floor with Trump in 2016. Bernie is immune to any rhetoric from the right thrown his way because his principals are clear and always abides by them.
first time ive ever said something like this, but really, if the dems give us another corporate shill candidate, voting for a 3rd party candidate that has no chance might not be the worst option. maybe the country really just needs to fully implode, maybe that will finally break it out of its complacent stupor. Though, I doubt it.
Because voting red has worked well so far? I don’t get the logic. There aren’t any other options.
How about we all start voting third party until we can establish at least 3 major parties. 5 would probably be better. It would force them to work together to accomplish things.
You don’t get 3 or more major parties in a fptp system though. The system itself is only capable of supporting two parties at most.
The voting system needs to first be changed on a state level in every state ideally, or at least most of them, so people need to start putting a lot more effort into state elections.
Um… several countries with multiple parties use fptp.
Yeah and in canada we get blue or blue light all the fucking time
if the fptp voting system dictates that the two most similar parties should merge to fight the third least similar party. In that case we should start an actual leftist party so the two parties on the right can merge and absorb eachother.
It’s more that the actual leftist party will take votes away from the liberals, but not the full-on nazi party. Meaning that you’d end up with something like 15% new leftist party that nobody dares vote for because it’s new, 40% dems, 45% repugnants and now the 45% is enough for them to win, whereas previously maybe it would’ve been 55% dems.
In fact, to win an election under that system, it would be beneficial to start an even more right-wing party, because that would take votes away from the GOP. But at the end of the day, it takes a couple of election cycles for 2 dominant parties to emerge and the most extremist ones are typically the ones to lose as people unite under the more centrist banners. That’s how you get republican and republican lite, where really a lot of people would prefer a socialist party and a lot of other people would prefer a national-socialistic workers party. They have to meet in the middle and get two parties that are somewhere between the two polar opposites.