Realistically in this situation are you legally justified in shooting if they barge into your home without a warrant? Save you survive the wall of gunfire they will inevitably deliver, will you have legs in court to stand on or are you fucked regardless for engaging with federal authorities?
Even against a legit bad actor, lethal booby traps are illegal. To have a “castle doctrine” type defense you have to knowingly assess the threat and take action. It can’t be automated.
Realistically in this situation are you legally justified in shooting if they barge into your home without a warrant?
In some states, it’s explicitly legal to shoot a cop if they break in due to mistaken identity…
Not just breaking into your home, if ICE tried to snatch a US citizen out of a vehicle in Indiana, the US citizen is legal allowed to us violence up to and including shooting them to death.
Obviously tho, ICE would murder the citizen for it immediately, but technically the citizen wouldn’t have broken any law.
The amendment to Indiana self-defense law permits citizens to use force against unlawful intrusion into their homes, curtilage, or occupied motor vehicles by any person, including public servants. This law altered the landscape of the Castle Doctrine by extending legal protection to those who would use force against the police.
And yet people around here still wanna act all high and mighty with their “peaceful protests.”
They are not being peaceful. They are not respecting literally anything. They are doing their absolute best to be the worst.
We should absolutely be “stopping” to their level and bringing guns, explosives, tear gas, all kinds of weapons to these protests and our own homes. We need to get this fucking shit started or else there won’t be anyone to start it.
Peaceful protest is what got the National Guard out of LA, Portland, and Chicago.
Not just protest, SPECIFICALLY peaceful protest is what made the judges declare sending the NG an unlawful order.
Yes, they are doing their absolute best to be the worst. That’s the point: to incite us to riot. And it takes far more strength on a personal level to refrain than it does to run out and fight in a blind rage.
When people like you start trying to get others to fight – because let’s be real, you’re not doing it yourself, you just want someone else in Minnesota to bleed for you – all you’re telling me is that you WANT the National Guard to be sent in, you WANT to empower these insane, unconstitutional and illegal orders, you WANT an end to democracy and a fresh new start with martial law. In other words, you WANT to install and keep this fascist regime forever.
That, or you’re just uneducated. But now you know.
Realistically in this situation are you legally justified in shooting if they barge into your home without a warrant? Save you survive the wall of gunfire they will inevitably deliver, will you have legs in court to stand on or are you fucked regardless for engaging with federal authorities?
(Let’s assume a state that has castle doctrine)
Juries are refusing to convict for more minor things right now, so you stand a decent chance at a not guilty verdict.
Problem is that ICE wildly outnumbers the typical household when they show up, so you are not likely to survive
Is it time to mine our front yards and claymore the front door?
Perhaps I should mount a small cannon at the top of the stairs loaded with grapeshot.
Feel like shit about the neighbors dog.
Even against a legit bad actor, lethal booby traps are illegal. To have a “castle doctrine” type defense you have to knowingly assess the threat and take action. It can’t be automated.
If America still had a functioning legal system, yes.
In the new reality of fascist dictatorship, no.
In some states, it’s explicitly legal to shoot a cop if they break in due to mistaken identity…
Not just breaking into your home, if ICE tried to snatch a US citizen out of a vehicle in Indiana, the US citizen is legal allowed to us violence up to and including shooting them to death.
Obviously tho, ICE would murder the citizen for it immediately, but technically the citizen wouldn’t have broken any law.
https://www.police1.com/legal/articles/the-castle-doctrine-and-indianas-controversial-new-law-FRxbimuYLTKSgBFB/
I think we’re a little ways past what is legal or illegal.
And yet people around here still wanna act all high and mighty with their “peaceful protests.”
They are not being peaceful. They are not respecting literally anything. They are doing their absolute best to be the worst.
We should absolutely be “stopping” to their level and bringing guns, explosives, tear gas, all kinds of weapons to these protests and our own homes. We need to get this fucking shit started or else there won’t be anyone to start it.
Peaceful protest is what got the National Guard out of LA, Portland, and Chicago.
Not just protest, SPECIFICALLY peaceful protest is what made the judges declare sending the NG an unlawful order.
Yes, they are doing their absolute best to be the worst. That’s the point: to incite us to riot. And it takes far more strength on a personal level to refrain than it does to run out and fight in a blind rage.
When people like you start trying to get others to fight – because let’s be real, you’re not doing it yourself, you just want someone else in Minnesota to bleed for you – all you’re telling me is that you WANT the National Guard to be sent in, you WANT to empower these insane, unconstitutional and illegal orders, you WANT an end to democracy and a fresh new start with martial law. In other words, you WANT to install and keep this fascist regime forever.
That, or you’re just uneducated. But now you know.
Yeah no shit. I fat-fingered it and didn’t realize until I hit post.